WHAT IS FENDER STUDIO PRO 8 ??????

[ianaeillo]

Sorry. You can get logic on subscription now, is a more accurate statement.

 

[chichogp]

This was the one thing i was super excited for when seeing the Release Notes earlier today. I've tried a few different drum recordings and it is always off, seems to use whatever algorithm is used for general audio to midi. I don't know how they've simplified this but still havn't gotten it right. The one thing i've hoped for an improvement for years so i wouldn't have to go into Cubase every time i need to prep drum replacement.

Other thoughts
- Performance way worse than 7.2.3 - same sessions on 7.2.3 which uses minimal CPU are maxxing out and clipping within Fender Studio.
- Takes alot longer to load sessions
- I really don't like the UI. I always find 3d/beselled effects really off putting

Sticking with S1 7 for now, if i don't commit to Cubase

Note detection works pretty well, it's actually impressive. It'll miss one note here and there but it gets the job done perfectly fine.
Drum detection just sucks as far as I tested it. Tried with an 1/8 tambourine loop and it detected only 1 note that didn't even exist, then with a loop which had a 1/4 very clear kick drum and it detected it but then added other stuff. I did a bunch of iterations of each of these tests and all gave similar results. Maybe I just was unlucky and got a bunch of buggy outputs or it's intended for drum replacement but so far I haven't been able to get anything useful out of it.

As for taking longer to load sessions and performance issues make sure you make a clean install and update your plugins.

 

[brmichael]

So you were on a perpetual license? If so - awesome.

I had an annual Pro+ subscription that was included with my Quantum HD8. The subscription ended on 13th December 2025. My license then turned into a perpetual license, which I assumed wasn't entitled to receive major updates (unless I re-subscribe, of course). To be able to download and activate Fender Studio Pro 8 for free without a subscription was a great surprise for me.

I'm redirected to a Fender login page as well when I visit MyPresonus. But inside, MyFender looks quite similar to MyPresonus.

I noticed that there were some new effect plugins that came with Fender Studio Pro 8. I can claim these effects for free. But I'll do this step by step. There's a lot to discover.

 

[Davey]

Sorry. You can get logic on subscription now, is a more accurate statement.

Yeah, apologies. Having re-read my reply I worded it a little harshly. Have a virtual man hug.

 

[Gerran]

Finding where to download Fender Studio One Pro 8 took a while, but I found it; and it installed nicely.

Yeah, apparently the software product has become my gear now...

 

[TimC340]

I have Studio One Pro+ subscription, which I suppose now has been converted or combined to include Fender Studio One Pro 8; and I was able to download Fender Studio One Pro 8 from my subscription area.

I suppose it depends on whether you have (a) the PreSonus Studio One Pro subscription, (b) the Fender Studio One Pro subscription, or (c) no subscription, at all.

In my case, it converted and I had to login with my same email and password. Then what was "My PreSonus" now is "My Fender".

Getting all that working, is an accomplishment on the developers; and it's reasonably smooth once you do the conversion.

Finding where to download Fender Studio One Pro 8 took a while, but I found it; and it installed nicely.

My answer was to the comment about Logic, not Studio One/FSP.

 

[madFloyd]

I downloaded and installed Fender Studio Pro 8, and it's nice!

So far, I have not noticed a lot of differences, and it looks pretty much the same as PreSonus Studio One Pro 7.2.3 . . .

Improved fader caps!

 

[Craig Anderton]

I like to take longer views than just my immediate wishes. Fender has wanted to grow the market for some time. I suspect they have internal surveys that show guitar players are underrepresented among DAW users. Those guitar players might be much more tempted by a DAW with Fender's imprimatur. Given that Fender Studio Pro is not a dumbed-down version of Studio One, those who want to continue using Studio One the way they did can do so.

Of course it's a version .0, so I suspect some nuts and bolts will be tightened down over the next few "point" updates.

 

[Ed Wine]

It seems the batch converter is gone, it doesn't come with the "new" version.

It's been moved to the drop-down menu "Studio Pro".

 

[TonalDynamics]

It looks like most of the update is focussed on interoperability between the free Fender Studio and the new (paid) Fender Studio Pro. So you can start a project on your iPad and transfer it to your desktop to finish. That's certainly why they added the amp sims and the reverb.

We probably need to wait for the next proper update to get a feel for the direction Fender are going in but we can expect a few "quick fix" releases before that.

15 months is plenty of time to see what direction they're going in m8, and it's not the PRO market.

Some corporate suit thinks they're a genius and have spotted a gap in DAWland between Garage Band and Pro Tools/Cubase and bought Studio One to remake it in their own image.

I saw the bullet notes on the launch thread, the 18 minute intro video, and read the full release notes.
The 'direction' is the hobbyist market, plain and simple.

 

[Crossinger]

The 'direction' is the hobbyist market, plain and simple.

You can't blame them: this is where the money is. (Saying that as I’m 100% hobbyist myself)

 

[Craig Anderton]

Back when Fender first acquired Presonus, we had the CEO yapping about stuff HE would like to see in Studio One

I always assumed that Fender Studio was an attempt to do that. But note that Mooney isn't the CEO as of February 16. The new CEO is Bud Cole, currently president of Fender Asia Pacific. Cole's background is in global expansion and brand-building. Basically, he's inheriting a plan that has already been executed with respect to integration. How much further this goes is anyone's guess.

I've always wondered why Fender didn't try to make PreSonus hardware a dominant player in Southeast Asia. However, the Fender connection has suddenly become significant. Guitar sales in Southeast Asia are expected to double from $100MM in 2024 to $200MM in 2033. That's HUGE growth for a supposedly mature market, and the rate is much faster than most Western markets. Young adults (15 - 35) are the growth engine behind this increase. If I was running Fender, I'd go after that market. Underserved markets offer the best opportunities. Most DAWs already have their niches locked up, especially in the USA and Europe. I'd also keep my eye on South America. It's not growing as fast as Southeast Asia, but the growth also skews young.

So ... I think how much Studio One changes in the years ahead will track musical tastes and global influences, more than the forces that have driven DAWs over the past three decades.

The salvation for those who want to bridge Studio One with DAWs like Nuendo is the .dawproject format. It's way better than AES31, OMF, or AAF. I've used it to transfer files among Bitwig, Studio One, and Cubase. If Pro Tools supported .dawproject, that would be hugely beneficial for the industry.

 

[TimC340]

I mentioned the change of CEO in the v7 speculation thread, surmising that the previous CEO’s dislike of complex software was now moot. However, you’re right that all the decisions that resulted in PreSonus being deprecated were made some time ago.

I’d like to see the working behind the prediction that the guitar market in SEA will double in the next 9 years. I’ve spent quite a bit of time in China and, while entertainment is on the rise, guitar bands aren’t particularly increasing. But EDM and the like definitely is increasing. I wonder if that prediction was more based on hope than research!

That said, I’ve no objection to the increased emphasis on guitars in v8; Fender is overwhelmingly associated with guitars, this is their property, and it was inevitably going to reflect their priorities eventually. They haven’t in any way reduced its facility for other types of music; indeed many of the improvements are in direct response to feature requests made over some time, so I think it’s still moving in the right direction.

The name change is a bit tone deaf, especially as it was done with no supporting communication to soothe the community - who pay the wages. That could have been handled a lot better, and I think they’ll regret their approach.

 

[TonalDynamics]

So ... I think how much Studio One changes in the years ahead will track musical tastes and global influences, more than the forces that have driven DAWs over the past three decades.

I mean what we know is that musicians, guitar players included, have never driven DAW advancement or featuresets.

I've played guitar myself since an early age fwiw... but in general the only time I want a guitarist in my control room is when they're listening to shit, recording something, or we're just hanging out. I sure as hell wouldn't want them to MIX anything for me!

I know a lot of musicians, as do you Craig... they are NOT producers, decidedly.
Having any guitar player, or any non-producing musician from any of the bands I've been in, making design decisions for my production workflow, would be an absolute disaster... the Jimmy Pages of the world are rare birds.

The more depressing implication about what you're saying is that with 'Fender Studio' (Good LORD I cringe at that name),
for the first time ever, they might...

Which unironically seems to be the very issue that brought us to this point.
No reason to suspect the new CEO will countermand the direction of the incumbent.

P.S. You're too quick, I deleted the post you quoted to edit it for later!

 

[TonalDynamics]

You can't blame them: this is where the money is. (Saying that as I’m 100% hobbyist myself)

I can absolutely blame Fender for taking my Professional production suite that I've spent 15 years learning since the first version and butchering its ongoing development to chase money.

Well within my rights there.

Your rights end where mine begin, and vice versa. That's how mutual respect works.
If you have to destroy something which is already thriving in order to cater to someone else's needs, you're doing it wrong.

Let's just ask all the oil painters what new features they'd like to see in Photoshop, eh?

 

[sintil8]

IMHO.
The Bean counters will ultimately make the decision. thats all I have to say!

Best of regards

 

[Crossinger]

I can absolutely blame Fender for taking my Professional production suite that I've spent 15 years learning since the first version and butchering its ongoing development to chase money.

Well within my rights there.

Your rights end where mine begin, and vice versa. That's how mutual respect works.
If you have to destroy something which is already thriving in order to cater to someone else's needs, you're doing it wrong.

Of course, I don't want to deny you your right to complain. On the other hand, I see it this way:

1. The market for “professionals” is small—even Apple can't survive on professionals alone. You have to target the mass market.
2. Sales are only possible through volume; the more licenses sold, the better. This applies to the army of amateur and hobby musicians, “producers”, beatmakers, etc. out there.
3. Fender Studio Pro (Studio One) didn't become a toy overnight. The new features may not appeal to you, but they definitely add value for others.
4. There have also been features in the past (ATMOS, for example) that were aimed purely at the professional market and were of no interest to hobbyists.

 

[TimC340]

While I very much like the Channel Overview, I do hope that it will become possible for third-party VSTs to have dedicated GUIs in that view, similar to the native ones. The controls included in the generic GUIs are arbitrary and, while they can be edited, there simply isn't room to get a representative set of controls on to that GUI as they are formatted just now. Yes, it's a simple task to open the full VST GUI, but for the Channel Overview to reach its potential, getting more controls accessible is key.

 

[Crossinger]

While I very much like the Channel Overview, I do hope that it will become possible for third-party VSTs to have dedicated GUIs in that view, similar to the native ones.

I think this requires additional code on the plugin side. And while this is not entirely impossible (some 3rd party dynamics plugins support the compression indicator in the mixer), it requires additional effort by the developer for a single DAW. Also it is unclear if Fender/Presonus has disclosed the necessary technical details.

 

[TonalDynamics]

Of course, I don't want to deny you your right to complain. On the other hand, I see it this way:

1. The market for “professionals” is small—even Apple can't survive on professionals alone. You have to target the mass market.
2. Sales are only possible through volume; the more licenses sold, the better. This applies to the army of amateur and hobby musicians, “producers”, beatmakers, etc. out there.
3. Fender Studio Pro (Studio One) didn't become a toy overnight. The new features may not appeal to you, but they definitely add value for others.
4. There have also been features in the past (ATMOS, for example) that were aimed purely at the professional market and were of no interest to hobbyists.

You're strawmanning though, I never said they shouldn't pursue those markets, I said they have sabotaged Studio One Pro to do this.
'Fender Studio' could have entirely been its own product, and it's what many of us here believed would happen.
Atmos happened in 6.5 my guy. The features/updates aimed at PROs since then have been scant.

The market for “professionals” is small—even Apple can't survive on professionals alone. You have to target the mass market.

You can do that in a separate product without neutering the development of an existing, thriving DAW in an attempt to appeal to noobies.

You can be exceptional or you can have mass appeal; very few products or services of any sort ever manage to do both, they all gravitate towards one business model or the other.

So it's not 'let's cater to the PRO and hobbyist market', it's 'let's cater to hobbyists and guitar players while leaving professionals out in the cold because we have bigger fish to fry'

The Fender CEO made this crystal clear shortly after the acquisition.