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Studio One 7.0.1 / 7.0.2 - Discussion Thread

Here's a quick snippet that shows the cursor...
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I don't find this troublesome, but to your point, I don't spend all day editing audio.
Actually - I meant this panel:

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And in your "highlighted range" screencap - what happens if you click your mouse in the bottom half of the track/event?

Do you get this sort of eye opening blast?

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vs the same in v6.6.4:

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VP
 
madfloyd
Yeah, I'm on the default settings also, and generally things are OK., however there is a blast of light when clicking in the lower part of an event, which could be improved.
VP,
From touring round some of the other Daw forum sites this is a recurring discussion. Folk have colour and screen resolutions requests !!!
I think I'm in the same boat as you on that one.
We only ask or draw attention to these issues as they enhance the use of the Daw, especially if you spend a lot of time using it.

Regards to all.
 
madfloyd
Yeah, I'm on the default settings also, and generally things are OK., however there is a blast of light when clicking in the lower part of an event, which could be improved.
VP,
From touring round some of the other Daw forum sites this is a recurring discussion. Folk have colour and screen resolutions requests !!!
I think I'm in the same boat as you on that one.
We only ask or draw attention to these issues as they enhance the use of the Daw, especially if you spend a lot of time using it.

Regards to all.

Oh - I am well aware of what is going on in other forums. What I still cannot grasp is why.

Presonus and the Studio One UI has always been a beacon of class , logical design, just the right amount of restraint (where needed) and that hard to place, warm "it just works - now doesn't it" kinda vibe.

This color track makes no sense - as it does not interlock with any known need, request or improvement. Unless of course I am wayyyyy off base here.

VP
 
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Could it depend on what the actual track color is?

Thank you!

And yes - it definitely will effect each track differently based on color. And in a lot cases - not in a good way.

I will plug these values in and see what happens over here.

VP
 
Oh - I am well aware of what is going on in other forums. What I still cannot grasp is why.

Presonus and the Studio One UI has always been a beacon of class , logical design, just the right amount of restraint (where needed) and that hard to place, warm "it just works - now doesn't it" kinda vibe.

This color track makes no sense - as it does not interlock with any known need, request or improvement. Unless of course I am wayyyyy off base here.

VP
Ditto.
To be honest I'm baffled and confused when such changes are made. Had there been a lynch mob banging on presonus's door it would be understandable. I don't know if I can add anything other than "was it needed and if it ain't broke it don't need fixing.
All the best.
 
Can you post a screen cap of your color panel? Have to be honest - I have messed with mine so much now - do not even know what "default" is actually supposed to look like anymore.

And - remember too that unless you are involved in very specific editing processes within S1 - like non-stop voiceover editing in my case - colors may not be a big deal at all. This is probably 98.2% of all users to be honest.

VP

VP, it seems like we spend considerable time work on very similar categories of material and that’s probably why your postings resonate with me. I make no use of the production tools that Presonus have introduced in the latest iteration however it’s great for those looking for such tools and if it helps bring more customers to the table for Presonus all the better as it means more potential to sort out any issues which are part and parcel of such projects (workarounds are often just something we learn to accept).

For pure editing tasks where, for example, things need to be joined/edited with pinpoint accuracy, colours/visibility is pivotal. I’ve seen people online effectively say what’s the big deal. Truth be told it is a big deal and I suspect an easier fix for the developers to address than other issues and am optimistic they will see our feedback and acknowledge that we are supporters rather naysayers. Of course there may well be critics out there who only want to criticise. I must admit the timing of the latest debacle regarding chips and efficiency did make me wonder. Especially when you read comments such as I’m demoing such and such daw and have decided to go for it…. Makes one wonder how many are genuine.

I am glad to see that a selected event now has a border around it as I can easily identify
what is selected. Even in V6 with certain colours I had issues with this. The cursor/playhead has always been a little difficult to spot.

A centred playhead is also for many an integral part of workflow. But I’m confident that this will be incorporated at some stage so am not pressing the issue too much. Also making ripple edit applicable to all tracks would be a nice option and would certainly give users of other daws (one in particular) who work on dialogue/post one more reason to make the jump.

I say all this as a Studio One fan and look forward to the improvements that are to come. If there was a daw to conquer all, then S1 is very well positioned.

Also, having involved individuals such as Lukas on hand writing scripts which add invaluable tools is to be acknowledged and is one of the main reasons I am still optimistic that things will be sorted out.
 
I agree it's difficult to find a working solution with the default or any of the available Appearance Presets...
Here's the Appearance settings and gridline option I'm using to help in regards to colors and gridlines with the Studio One Pro 7.0.1 release.

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The problem starts when zooming in. The subdivision-gridlines are the culprit, becoming hard to see with certain colours.
 
The light colored gridlines are a problem with light background colors for events when selected.
I'd like to see gridlines that automatically follow shades of the waveform color like this...

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The light colored gridlines are a problem with light background colors for events when selected.
I'd like to see gridlines that automatically follow shades of the waveform color like this...

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yes, exactly!
 
.....Presonus and the Studio One UI has always been a beacon of class , logical design, just the right amount of restraint (where needed) and that hard to place, warm "it just works - now doesn't it" kinda vibe.

This color track makes no sense - as it does not interlock with any known need, request or improvement. Unless of course I am wayyyyy off base here.

VP
It's a valid point, and I believe developers should have spent perhaps just a few extra weeks in ironing out real world usage before release (any release). How does that happen? Well, it's not simply the circle of beta testing and engineering response, as much as some reliable form of those who use the product in very long sessions of real world use. That's where things such as overly bright selected entities, too thin or nearly invisible playhead lines that can't be seen, can be weeded out. There should have been included some set of criteria in the beta development to include long hours usage feedback, as well as coloration change options. What was ever wrong with auto contrasting a playhead against similar color backgrounds? Just as event notes are displayed. Or even an option for it.
Someone has to know that the product is going out to the masses, and while I applaud the fresh new look of version 7, it shouldn't be on the showroom floor with blemishes on the paint, figuratively. If someone is going to deem their forum outreach as too costly (I'll guess), then they better also take stock in knowing the product could be hit with users complaining that they've used the product for years now and things like overly bright selected events are legitamately distracting. Particularly through often long darkroom like Studio settings. If that set of pre release criteria is already in place, it should have been addressed. The few who question it here, is likely a reflection of others not in a forum thinking the same, and that should be a consideration. I'm sure it is, to some degree.

I'll be honest. I'm not complaining as I'm too busy using and enjoying the new release v7. But I do believe in the interest of bettering the product, that care should be taken on the look, and the underlined feel that it's user base has to deal with. Otherwise, the message might tend to turn from Studio One new releases tend to jump the gun on a professional level of checking all of the necessary boxes before release. Or, they'll get it right the next time.

My two cents, as I understand new releases aren't always without issues. However, this truly seems to be a "miss" that could have easily been avoided. Even worse, possibly an underlined reputation that can accompany it.

If the playhead isn't visible because of some coloration setting, it can be adjusted to be visible at some level. If that satisfies all background scenarios, I haven't checked. Considering the importance of the playhead cursor in general, it should hopefully always be visible.

"Get it right the first time, that's the main thing." [Billy Joel].

So bottom line, I don't think its unreasonable for people to question, what's up with that?
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Just re read this. Sorry if I came over a little too matter of fact but I do care about the product which I know speaks for itself. It would be nice if those final visual tweaks (which there will always be, of sorts) made it into the release. Kind of important. ; )
 
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The alignment still look broken ? One track higher than the other ?!

When will there be a trial available ?


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No, alignment is not broken, this are two different screenshots, one from 7.0. the other from 7.0.1. It´s just the screenshots that are not aligned.
Sorry for the confusion!
 
Are the changes to the insert/sends color a bug or a feature?
Well,that´s what we all would like to know. Seems like in order to make the selected channel stand out more, they fainted all other channels.
 
A centred playhead is also for many an integral part of workflow. But I’m confident that this will be incorporated at some stage so am not pressing the issue too much. Also making ripple edit applicable to all tracks would be a nice option and would certainly give users of other daws (one in particular) who work on dialogue/post one more reason to make the jump.
A centered playhead would be nice. There's needs for the existing sweeping playhead as well. It would be nice to make good use of both for different needs. One can hope we see that with Studio One in the not too distant future.

As a workaround for all tracks ripple edit, simply set the loop marker where you want to drop out sections along the timeline. Then simply right click to delete time along the timeline. This instantly deletes and closes the gap on all tracks, so this effectively works just as fast.
 
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