Fix for a Note Data Quantization Gotcha

[Craig Anderton]

Maybe everyone knows this, but I didn't! The problem was note quantization behaving erratically, and quantizing to the wrong places. The fix was to choose Freeze Quantize before applying additional quantization.

 

[Trucky]

Good to know. Thanks!

 

[lokeyfly]

I'm going to try that, because I've really never found quantization ever usable with Studio One. While I still don't use Q much, it can be helpful so thanks for the tip! I'll report back when I notice the difference.

 

[Craig Anderton]

If you find out what causes the quantization to not be frozenis issue in the first place, that would be helpful. I think it might relate to notes that were adjusted via the chord track.

 

[freddiphin]

I just ran in to this issue and posted about it here and have been surprised at the lack of response of similar frustrations. So, I guess "freeze quantize" is a thing everyone understands or takes for granted here?! In my 30 years of MIDI editing I have never experienced such a protocol, whereby quantization acts on original positions of notes no matter how much time or previous editing has taken place beforehand unless a willful "Freeze Quantize" has been called for.
I too had kind of given up on understanding the experienced irregularities of Quantize in Studio One due to this until finding this thread. So thank you!

 

[Jens]

Another strange quantizing example: note ends can't be quantized at all without quantizing the start positions. The GUI suggests it's possible but it's not.

 

[nhc]

Another strange quantizing example: note ends can't be quantized at all without quantizing the start positions. The GUI suggests it's possible but it's not.
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This might not be right place to quantize note start and end. But take a look at this context menu:

It opens this window, where you can quantize the start and end of notes as you want:


Also check out the Music Editing macro toolbar that comes with Studio One / Studio Pro. Here you can easily access these functions :

 

[Jens]

Nhc, the note action (second image) doesn't work either. (I'm still using v6.6.4 but the later release notes never mentioned a bug fix). The start positions always change even if the option is not selected.

Edit: I did a freeze beforehand and it works now. I didn't know that the (non frozen) positions are kept even for old projects.

 

[freddiphin]

I guess the lesson is "always Freeze Quantize beforehand". Counterintuitive as that is, it must become the new mantra!

 

[Jens]

I guess the lesson is "always Freeze Quantize beforehand". Counterintuitive as that is, it must become the new mantra!

Let's call it what it actually is: a "forever bug" in the most basic DAW features. S1/SP quantizes notes based on invisible note positions resulting in random changes/behavior the user didn't intend.

... I've really never found quantization ever usable with Studio One.

People are so used to longtime bugs that they simply have given up. (Edit: That includes me but I'm usually more bothered by plenty of smaller bugs that almost never get fixed.)