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Studio Pro 8 - Discussion Thread
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3BoxesEast
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Hi - I've just signed up to the forum and have posted a new topic in the 'Notion' pages regarding this. Check in there (when the post has been approved for public display). In essence, Fender Notion is now free.! Desktop or mobile, all platforms.Thank you for your very informative post
I am a new user to what was Studio one when I joined 2 weeks back, totally unaware of them about to change everything.
I have been a Notion 5 user since about 2010 before they became part of Presonus. So, when I baught the Studio One 7+ license getting Notion was a big consideration as it enabled me to read and open projects that was written in Notion. At that time my understanding was that the only way I could get my hands on the Notion software to open those old files was through the subscription, and the assumption was that after after a year I will once again loose that license as the “keep forever” part of the license only applied to the Studio One software, now Fender Studio. Having read through most of the whole thread I think I understood more or less what happens to my Stdio one subscription, i.e. nothing change except I do get all the shiny things that comes with Fender Studio, but nothing about Notion, until page 13 when your post clarified a few things.
If you do not mind, may I ask some more questions please.
Do I understand your post about Notion correctly that all the features in Notion regarding score writing is now integrated with Fender Studio? If so, I should not really need to use Notion for writing new scores and rather do it all in Studio?
Printing would understandingly still be a challenge ?
Can Studio one open legacy Notion files? If not, I assume I should still go through the tedious task of opening all legacy projects in Notion, then transfer them to Studio and save the song files for backup.
This process have proven more than tedious, as it seems like not everything transferred with the file -> transfer to Studio One transferred correctly over, especially any lyrics, chord symbols, text or expression markings.
Although Notion sounds are not as good as Vienna or other pricey software, it surely was good enough for the writing process. Writing score in Studio One however does not have the sounds library of Notion built in and requires a 3rd party Vst instrument library. Is this assumption correct or can I somehow use Notion sounds library in Studio?
3BoxesEast
New member
I would miss this.! Is it really the case that there's no more access to Circle of Fifths like we used to here.? Hmm... bad move if so...
Joe is not correct here. There's no such option.
THW
Member
I like to imagine someone said, ‘What if we just… didn’t make them click twice?’
The room went silent. Someone stopped typing. Another slowly lowered their coffee. Gregor gave a single nod. Meetings ended early that day. A legend was born.
Edit: Just saw Lukas note that we can't switch back to original state. I can imagine some wanting to go back to original state. Not me though...like it.
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Surf.Whammy
Active member
In Studo One, if you single-clicked on an effect "Insert", then it expanded to show a short list of stuff, which (a) I never used and (b) I found vastly annoying.
In Fender Studio Pro 8, a singe-click shows the GUI for the effect, which is excellent and requires only a single-click rather than trying to do a rapid double-click in Studio One.
The short, expanded but tiny list is moved to the Channel Overview, where it actually makes a bit of sense but is displayed in a different and better way.
Single-click to show the effect GUI is excellent and it will save me time over-and-over.
Gerran
Active member
At the moment it's a 150% increase of clicks for me, but I'll get those numbers down by the minute..
JBMusic
Active member
Can I still keep and use Studio One 7 when I install this new Fender DAW? I might need to migrate. Also, if I ever need to rebuild my SSD for some reason down the road will Studio One 7 still be available to me to download from my account if I wish to? Please forgive me if this was addressed before on this thread but it's become too long to search through and I haven't been following it every day.
Thanks
John B
Thanks
John B
Midiboy
Active member
See, I like the single click thing to open my plug-ins as well, HOWEVER, until I get used to this, it's a 5 click.
2 times because I forget, and it opens the stupid mini thing that seriously...nobody uses, but Gregor REALLY loved it when it first came out.
2 more times to close that stupid thing that nobody but Gregor liked...
1 time to open the plug-in, which now Gregor seems to really like and thinks it's super convenient.
Still, love Gregor's (and Joe's) videos though. Just giving him a rough time that he will likely never see anyway.
2 times because I forget, and it opens the stupid mini thing that seriously...nobody uses, but Gregor REALLY loved it when it first came out.
2 more times to close that stupid thing that nobody but Gregor liked...
1 time to open the plug-in, which now Gregor seems to really like and thinks it's super convenient.
Still, love Gregor's (and Joe's) videos though. Just giving him a rough time that he will likely never see anyway.
khilts
New member
Serious issues with automation in 8 that weren't in 7.2
1) If I freeze an instrument track to audio, the volume automation is not present in the rendered audio. I've tried deleting and recreating the volume automation, no change. Have this issue on all tracks.
2) If I open a 7.2 project with frozen (rendered to audio) instrument tracks that had automation, and try to revert them back to an instrument track in 8, some automation lanes are no longer there.
I recommend (good practice for any significant software update, I guess) that everyone try out 8 using copies of their existing projects so that you don't lose critical info.
1) If I freeze an instrument track to audio, the volume automation is not present in the rendered audio. I've tried deleting and recreating the volume automation, no change. Have this issue on all tracks.
2) If I open a 7.2 project with frozen (rendered to audio) instrument tracks that had automation, and try to revert them back to an instrument track in 8, some automation lanes are no longer there.
I recommend (good practice for any significant software update, I guess) that everyone try out 8 using copies of their existing projects so that you don't lose critical info.
Crossinger
Active member
Ok, true story: I didn’t use the mini view either. Until two days ago after dabbling around with v7 while contributing to this discussion and finding answers for customization. I have a S1 project with a quite complex Reason Rack FX, but at the end of the day it’s only one knob to adjust. So I customized the controller access and now I can control that fx in the same way as e.g. a send. Great! So it’s not an everyday thing, but for specific tasks it does the job.
Vocalpoint
Well-known member
Yes. All versions install into their own directories by default. You can have numerous versions installed side by side for years in you want
Yes. Not sure why you would need V7 after a cutover to v8 (as v8 will load all your v7 and prior version songs just fine) but your v7 installers will be in your account forever if need be.
VP
khilts
New member
I won't need V7 when V8 is fully functional, but for now, it's back to V7.
OP
OP
You will never lose anything.
If you found a case because of an version upgrade, please tell me.
Vocalpoint
Well-known member
Ari
Folks are understandably nervous about the automation issue (that is beginning to bubble up) and if one opens a v7 session in v8 and makes the mistake of saving - there is no going back - so in effect - one IS losing something: any ability to open that session again in a version of s1 (v7) where the automation IS working..
Working on a copy (in v8) is the best play until at least v8.0.2 arrives and some of these bigger issues have been addressed.
VP
Midiboy
Active member
I think what they mean by losing critical data, is you open a v7 song in v8, and save it, you will not be able to open that again in v7...
HOWEVER...don't forget, you SHOULD have autosave on all your sessions...so even if you save a v7 in v8, you can still go back into v7 and open up a previous copy that will likely have all but maybe one or two changes you made before saving that previous one as a final.
HOWEVER...don't forget, you SHOULD have autosave on all your sessions...so even if you save a v7 in v8, you can still go back into v7 and open up a previous copy that will likely have all but maybe one or two changes you made before saving that previous one as a final.
You forgot to mention that the embrace of the guitar-dominated past combined with the rejection of the MIDI Association working on MIDI 2 in the present leaves a bad taste in the mouths of people who realize guitarists this century may do some nice things here and there but will never have the impact of those who invented and perfected the rock, country, rockabilly, or metal genres last century.
Releasing software aimed at allowing customers to copy the inspired efforts of yesteryear may attract some newcomers, but it's sure to alienate others who've had similar, if not better, tools at their disposal for decades.