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Studio One /New 7/ V8 due?

Johnsongs

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In a week's time it will be the anniversary of the launch of the new S1 universe, with version 7. Looking back on their announcement last year, as I understand it, there won't be any more numbered updates, so I assume the product will always be called '7.xx' ?? Have there been any rumblings on the bush telegraph about a one-year-on update? I'm still on V6 and will be eager to see what's cooking, in case it tempts me to jump back in.
 
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Well, the whole idea for Presonus was to incrementally update S7 maybe four times a year without any "big ticket" additions, and that if you ever see an improvement or added feature that's a must-have for you, you'll jump back on board the subscription train for another twelve months. So a "one year" anniversary release with something special included kind of doesn't fit that model. However, the marketing gurus at Presonus will no doubt want to push some buttons and make whoopee about the one year thing.
Plus, it's theoretically a point in time when a lot of users will be considering whether to resubscribe or lapse into a perpetual license, and if the update falls outside the 12 month period and therefore wouldn't be included in the PL, Presonus might sweeten the pot with a significant new toy.
Mind you, I'm of the opinion that DAW developers have long been reinventing the wheel. I'd be really surprised if they came up with anything truly innovative or appealing over what S7 can already do.
 
Many thanks. Yes, it'll be interesting to see what transpires on the anniversary. Maybe before that (i.e. about now), Presonus will do a trailer aimed at possible 'lapsers'. Also, people like me, strongly thinking of updating, i.e. if I did that now, would I have to pay again a week or so later if a new update contains a 'must have'? 🤔
 
........it'll be interesting to see what transpires on the anniversary. Maybe before that (i.e. about now), Presonus will do a trailer aimed at possible 'lapsers'. Also, people like me, strongly thinking of updating, i.e. if I did that now, would I have to pay again a week or so later if a new update contains a 'must have'? 🤔
Not sure if Presonus will do a trailer for "lapsers." That strikes me as rather odd, when the core ingredient for marketing sizzle would be simply what's new in the next version. Given what is likely one of the largest feature jumps I can recall in any version (v6 to v7) where Presonus in version 7 threw in the whole kitchen sink of availables, you likely already know so I won't describe them. Add to that, more sample player instruments. For what's new, I'd imagine they'll be dangling the carrot to ANY Studio One/Studio One Plus users. In your case as a version 6 owner, that will be a lot. It already is right now.

As to what features allow anyone to actually do more in a DAW that they couldn't do prior, is always a bit of a head scratcher. What seems to be the insta-crack are things pointed towards AI. The you-can-do-it-too! mindset.
So, let's see. I'd even allow them to hold off until 2026, and get what they have to, right. I believe the initial sales speak from Gregor was "three to four" updates per year. I'm fine with three updates, and let's just see how worthy they are. In the mean time, lets all make music.

Was there a feature you were looking for?
 
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You know it's funny...with every major new release of Studio One, I'm thinking, "Wow...there is nothing else needed! This is great." Then they come out with a new major feature and I'm like..."how did I live without this? It's now complete." Rinse and repeat.

Honestly, I'm really happy with version 7. Looking at various DAWs, I see nothing out there that -=I=- need that isn't here. Sure, Ableton has this feature or that feature...don't need it. Reaper has this "amazing new thing." Bah. It's a gimmick. Doesn't help me make music any better...

In fact, I don't even use ALL the new features of v7. Splice for example. No interest in MY workflow. I rarely use loops. The few times I do, it's for a cymbal swell cuz...let's be honest...there are not really any good MIDI cymbal swells out there.

So there you go, Presonus. Make us a new synth called "The Swell Symbol."
 
Many thanks. Yes, it'll be interesting to see what transpires on the anniversary. Maybe before that (i.e. about now), Presonus will do a trailer aimed at possible 'lapsers'. Also, people like me, strongly thinking of updating, i.e. if I did that now, would I have to pay again a week or so later if a new update contains a 'must have'? 🤔
No, once you update you're effective subscribed for 12 months and eligible for all the updates over that period. Then at the end you have the choice pay again or switch to a perpetual license.

A must-have for me would be a fully featured vintage channel strip with EQ, Comp, saturation, etc all in the one plugin and visible rather than building one in Fat Channel.
 
You know it's funny...with every major new release of Studio One, I'm thinking, "Wow...there is nothing else needed! This is great." Then they come out with a new major feature and I'm like..."how did I live without this? It's now complete." Rinse and repeat.
Cool, and there's likely many who feel the same. A good thing, Midiboy.
I feel (and am not alone) the improvements should still be substantial coming in. I'd love to have a sit down with their team. There are both a number of essentials still missing, as well as some innovative improvements that are not difficult to add. Many of those features have been in the industry for decades. Presonus just have to add it, or more importantly see the need. I truly wonder at times if they do. If and when I get a chance, I have a few macros that I've been using for years now that can make navigating and editing so much better. Oh, there's plenty Presonus development could be doing, but sadly they are not. I love Studio One for all it currently offers. Its look, elegance, and usefulness.
Only they [development] could be doing much more towards improvements. Until then, its still a very good DAW. Just my 0.02 cents.
I've brought up a true and all visible channel strip being one of them as well.
All good points,
Cheers.
 
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Was there a feature you were looking for?
Well, I'm sure it's not on Presonus's list, but better MIDI implementation would be useful, particularly an easier way to select patches for my external synths. I can in fact accomplish this, thanks to YT videos by Lukas (Admin here) that describe how to import other DAWs' patch maps into S1's Sound Variations, but an easier method would be nice. I know S1 was originally built with the assumption that MIDI wasn't going to be part of the future, but to borrow from Mark Twain: 'Rumours of its death were grossly exaggerated!'
 
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A must-have for me would be a fully featured vintage channel strip with EQ, Comp, saturation, etc all in the one plugin and visible rather than building one in Fat Channel.

It's called Scheps Omni Channel 2 from Waves.

That said - far be it for me to give those guys even the slightest bit of oxygen - but this specific plugin is special.

Much easier to simply get that and get down to it than waiting around for something like this to arrive in S1.

VP
 
It's called Scheps Omni Channel 2 from Waves.

That said - far be it for me to give those guys even the slightest bit of oxygen - but this specific plugin is special.

Much easier to simply get that and get down to it than waiting around for something like this to arrive in S1.

VP
Yeah. I really don't have any love for Waves but the only plugin I use from them is Scheps, and it is REALLY good.
 
Yeah. I really don't have any love for Waves but the only plugin I use from them is Scheps, and it is REALLY good.

I use just two - the Scheps and their NS-2 Noise Suppressor - which is some kinda voodoo for sure.

VP
 
A must-have for me would be a fully featured vintage channel strip with EQ, Comp, saturation, etc all in the one plugin and visible rather than building one in Fat Channel.
In the past I switched DAWs some times, and each time I got happier about my 3rd party plugins, which I can use in any DAW. Because of that, plugins bundled with a DAW became less and less important to me.

Regarding the vintage channel strip: fortunately, Native Instruments gave away the Brainworx bx_console Focusrite SC plugin for free some time ago. Now I own this plugin, which is an emulation of a channel strip of the legendary Focusrite Studio Console:
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If you have that, you don't need anything else:cool: And as every 3rd party plugin, I can use bx_console in any DAW.
 
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In the past I switched DAWs some times, and each time I got happier about my 3rd party plugins, which I can use in any DAW. Because of that, plugins bundled with a DAW became less and less important to me.

Regarding the vintage channel strip: fortunately, Native Instruments gave away the Brainworx bx_console Focusrite SC plugin for free some time ago. Now I own this plugin, which is an emulation of a channel strip of the legendary Focusrite Studio Console:
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If you have that, you don't need anything else:cool: And as every 3rd party plugin, I can use bx_console in any DAW.
I generally disliked the Focusrite channel strip when it first came out. While I thought the EQ sounded good I never liked how the compressor and gate sound compared to other plugins (namely the Scheps, the Metric Halo Channelstrip, or MBSI.)

HOWEVER. My assistant swore by it on toms and one day he got a premix ready for me. He put it on toms and acoustics and it sounded SO GOOD. Like, it is the absolute king of rack toms for me. I can't even describe it. It's just so fantastic and now it's my go-to for those instruments and background vocals.
 
Re the Scheps Channel Strip ... I keep looking at it, it keeps going on special, and yet I've never hit the "Buy" button. You guys are killing me...
Mind you, I often mix in Harrison Mixbus.
 
Re the Scheps Channel Strip ... I keep looking at it, it keeps going on special, and yet I've never hit the "Buy" button. You guys are killing me...
Mind you, I often mix in Harrison Mixbus.

It will be the best 29 bucks you have spent in a while. Trust us....:)

VP
 
What's the CPU usage like? Can you run maybe 10 instances over ten tracks?
My go-to template has 16 tracks so 16 instances usually - haven't seen any real concerns.

VP
 
It will be the best 29 bucks you have spent in a while. Trust us....:)

VP
Strong agree. I have two other main strips for different types of work and I think all three are worth what I paid for them. Except I could buy four licenses of the Scheps for what each of the other two cost.

What's the CPU usage like? Can you run maybe 10 instances over ten tracks?
As I type this, I have a session open as on a 2012 Mac Pro in Studio One 5 that has 41 tracks and 41 instances of the plugin and it is pushing 41% cpu with a few other plugins. I'll switch over to an M2 Mac mini to finish the project and could probably push twice that number. It's very low CPU usage.
 
Well, I'm sure it's not on Presonus's list, but better MIDI implementation would be useful, particularly an easier way to select patches for my external synths. I can in fact accomplish this, thanks to YT videos by Lukas (Admin here) that describe how to import other DAWs' patch maps into S1's Sound Variations, but an easier method would be nice. I know S1 was originally built with the assumption that MIDI wasn't going to be part of the future, but to borrow from Mark Twain: 'Rumours of its death were grossly exaggerated!'
You don't seem to be taking into account that with MIDI 2 being so close, it doesn't make a lot of sense to spend resources rolling out MIDI improvements for the end of MIDI 1 life. It's certainly true that Presonus dropped the ball on MIDI improvement last decade when they equated the move away from MIDI workstations (flagships like Fantom, Montage, Kronos) with a move away from MIDI altogether. However, they also took a lot of input from Lukas and Gregor among others as they gradually began to make up for lost time. They're now well aware MIDI isn't going away, but I strongly suspect they're waiting for MIDI 2 to really up their game.
 
You don't seem to be taking into account that with MIDI 2 being so close, it doesn't make a lot of sense to spend resources rolling out MIDI improvements for the end of MIDI 1 life.

MIDI 2.0 may very well be close but that means that every single user (Mac or Windows) will need to push right up to the latest OS for their hardware to gain access to the "DAW" side of it.

Right now - OS Tahoe does not support MIDI 2.0 and only Windows 11 25H2 (way into 2026) will be the first version with full support when this is finally ready for deployment to the masses.

Then for that to make any sense - your MIDI hardware needs to support it as well. And with all MIDI 1.0 hardware being backwards compatible - MIDI 1.0 will continue to have a very long life even after MIDI 2.0 finally gains traction.

Cannot imagine every user out there upgrading their OS/computer AND buying new MIDI 2.0 compatible hardware just to join the party.

And sure - Presonus will of course be there - if/when MIDI 2.0 is a household release and it makes sense for Studio One - but I can't imagine them caring about this now - or even into 2026.

The arrival of this new standard should not stop them from making improvements for current MIDI users where ever possible.

MIDI 2.0 certainly sounds exciting - but it will take years to properly percolate before it's considered mainstream.

VP
 
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