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Rick Beato really, really dislikes Fender...
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I'm not a fan of his, but I respect his right to state his piece, a right which we don't have on this forum since the thread discussing this topic was abruptly closed on this supposedly independent forum. I don't buy the explanation, YMMV.
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Fender shenanigans
The music industry seems to be crumbling thanks in part to buy outs and private equity firms. For anyone not following what Fender is doing in their 'mainstream' guitar business sector. They are trying to get other competitors who make a Fender Strat type guitars to 'cease and desist'..Nice...
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What's wrong with his rant?
Catching up on this here
https://www.guitarworld.com/gear/electric-guitars/fender-speaks-out-on-cease-and-desists
It does seem that this whole thing isn't as drastic as it was initially reported. So I can see Beato is being a bit over dramatic maybe.
Catching up on this here
https://www.guitarworld.com/gear/electric-guitars/fender-speaks-out-on-cease-and-desists
It does seem that this whole thing isn't as drastic as it was initially reported. So I can see Beato is being a bit over dramatic maybe.
Craig Anderton
Well-known member
Moderators have to make judgement calls about what furthers the goal of a forum, and what doesn't. On my Sound, Studio, and Stage forum, the Fender flap fits in naturally and has been a topic of conversation. But, it's a very general forum where no topics are taboo. The only exception is if threads that mention politics or religion show up. I have no problem closing or deleting threads if in my opinion they get out of hand. There are plenty of other places to discuss those things.
I understand your point that to some degree, Studio One's health may depend on Fender's health. But that's not always the case with an acquisition. Acquisitions that are financially healthy on their own are sometimes immune from what's happening with parent companies.
This forum is dedicated to Studio Pro, not peripheral topics like the music business, corporate ownership, etc. To keep the forum on track with its intended purpose, IMHO it made sense to close the thread and concentrate on topics that involve making music with Studio One.
He's not the only one. If you look on YouTube there's many other guitarists, musicians, artists, techs & producers with the same opinion.
Agree if the post was made in the Community Support Forum. But it was made in the Lounge...where there are no warnings about what discussions are off limits. That raises legitimate questions about the independence of this forum.
That said, it's not like I don't understand the topic puts BobF in an awkward position as a moderator. There is no doubt that deep relationships exist between at least some moderators and Fender. Which would be fine if independence from Fender isn't claimed, but it is. Just because I find this situation a bit bothersome doesn't mean I feel everyone else should be concerned.
SwitchBack
Well-known member
Even an independent forum has owners, and we're a guest on their premises so to speak. Independent does not have to mean impartial. Usually it's pretty obvious why a thread is closed, and for controversial threads that's probably a bit sooner 
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TonalDynamics
Active member
Love ya Craig, but gotta agree with Mr. E on this one, not buying it.
More likely Fender is somehow aware of this forum and is directly or indirectly applying pressure to moderation.
After the way they obliterated the old forum, it would not be out of character at all
Well there's an old saying, don't let the person who burned your Thanksgiving turkey cook your Christmas dinner...
Lack of Fender involvement was as you mentioned, the whole point of this forum, after seeing the way they annihilated the old forum without warning.
The old forum, which was full of tips, tricks, troubleshooting advice, and workarounds, was snapped away with a week's warning and no archive, vanished like smoke.
The idea was, obviously Fender corporate doesn't like us or care about our 15 years of legacy posts, so we need to make our own forum beyond their reach. If Lukas merely appointed Fender associates/employees/contractors to mod the new site, it kind of defeats the whole purpose, in addition to placing those mods in something of an unenviable position of trying to walk that tightrope, but obviously I hope this is not the case.
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