Question About Perpetual License Products

[Vocalpoint]

My interpretation has always been: Studio Grand, Orchestra, Batch Converter and Presence XT Editor have become an integral part of the Perpetual License. Therefore, imho, they should not expire after one year.

Hmm. Let me check something here...

Ah - yes. These ARE included with perpetual - I have simply never installed them. My bad.

VP

 

[brmichael]

That's the problem I've already been complaining about: in my.presonus, all content is marked as Pro+ content (if you have a sub), even perpetual content. So before the end of a subscription period, you can't tell what's going to be perpetual and what you will be losing. You have to rely on the feature lists Presonus provides on the Studio One product website.

 

[lokeyfly]

Got it. How come I can still access Studio Grand and the Orchestra? Is there a grace period, or is it just because the activation gremlin hasn't run on my PC yet?

My subscription ran out, and I loaded the Symphonic Orchestra, Deep Flight One, and Cinimatic Lights about one week ago. I mentioned that you keep those.
There are a few you don't get to keep like a few of the Fat Channel extensions.

I dumped Deep Flight One, and Cinematic Lights after only a few hours because ..... well, let's just be polite and say I wasn't impressed.

 

[Midiboy]

Yeah. I tried to like Deep Flight One and Cinematic Lights. I really did. But I can't find a good use for the sounds it creates at least in the genres I do.

 

[lokeyfly]

Yeah. I tried to like Deep Flight One and Cinematic Lights. I really did. But I can't find a good use for the sounds it creates at least in the genres I do.

That might be for a lot of people. I often delve into ambient, and they state that those two instruments are good for that. I'm not seeing that, but ke sara sara.

You have a slew of other good stuff to work from with Perp. You pay'd for it and its yours. Re up, when the prospects look good. A good thing!

 

[Midiboy]

Yep! 100% agree. I actually have an ambient project as well (My music is played in several local spas). It's not my favorite thing to write, but even still...I have better sounds for that. I use a lot of the VSTi by "Quiet Music."

But, usually when I do an ambient project, I have to follow it up with a rocker. lol.

 

[TimC340]

The only place I could find out what VSTs are included with core Studio One is from the demo page - and it doesn't give a list of the effects on that page. This is the list it gives:

Studio One Impulse Responses
Electronic Audioloops
Synth Session Soundset
Studio One Instruments Volume 1
Studio One Instruments Volume 2
Nine Volt Audio Guitars
Studio One Musicloops
Acoustic Drum Kits and Loops
Studio One FX
Studio One Electric Pianos and Organs
Vintage Keys
Presence XT Core Acoustic Guitars
Presence XT Core Basses
Presence XT Core Electric Guitars
Presence XT Core Keyboards
Presence XT Core Mallets
Presence XT Core Percussion and Vocals
Presence XT Core Strings
Presence XT Core Brass
Presence XT Core Winds
Big Fish Audio Loops and Kits
MVP Loops and Kits
Sample Magic Loops and Kits
Prime Selection Loops and Sounds
Impact XT Kits and Sounds
Studio One 3D Impulse Responses
Studio One Launcher Loops

Edit: actually, these are the '27 bundled downloads' shown on the MyPresonus product page - I'd always assumed some of that was Plus content. Obviously not!

 

[Midiboy]

The only place I could find out what VSTs are included with core Studio One is from the demo page - and it doesn't give a list of the effects on that page. This is the list it gives:

Studio One Impulse Responses
Electronic Audioloops
Synth Session Soundset
Studio One Instruments Volume 1
Studio One Instruments Volume 2
Nine Volt Audio Guitars
Studio One Musicloops
Acoustic Drum Kits and Loops
Studio One FX
Studio One Electric Pianos and Organs
Vintage Keys
Presence XT Core Acoustic Guitars
Presence XT Core Basses
Presence XT Core Electric Guitars
Presence XT Core Keyboards
Presence XT Core Mallets
Presence XT Core Percussion and Vocals
Presence XT Core Strings
Presence XT Core Brass
Presence XT Core Winds
Big Fish Audio Loops and Kits
MVP Loops and Kits
Sample Magic Loops and Kits
Prime Selection Loops and Sounds
Impact XT Kits and Sounds
Studio One 3D Impulse Responses
Studio One Launcher Loops

Nice. I definitely still have Studio Grand and the Orchestra. I'm actually recording with it right now.

 

[TimC340]

I assume they're part of Studio One Instruments Vol1/2?

 

[Jeff]

I agree 7.2 will last me a long time, however if a killer update comes out I'll buy. But we will just have to wait and see.

 

[Davey]

I was also confused about what is and isn't included in perpetual. In particular the Fat Channel stuff had me wasting time trying to find out why only 5 of the 15 items were activated. The answer, of course, is that only 5 of them are included with perpetual but because of the way all 15 are "bundled" together the installer tries to activate them and then reports a failure so it looks like something has gone wrong. Would be much better if those extra 10 items were in a different bundle and hidden from perpetual users.

It was quite hard to find a definitive list of what I should have available to me.

I should add that I don't particularly want or need those extra Fat Channel items. It just irks me that whenever I activate anything in S1 it complains about those 10 items, even though I was just activating something else. Bad design really. It means a brand new user installs their shiny new thing and sees this:

 

[Midiboy]

You are 100% correct on this. This had me confused when I was a new customer.

 

[Vocalpoint]

I should add that I don't particularly want or need those extra Fat Channel items. It just irks me that whenever I activate anything in S1 it complains about those 10 items, even though I was just activating something else. Bad design really. It means a brand new user installs their shiny new thing and sees this:

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My installer does this as well. Poorly implemented.

The installer should know - in intimate detail - exactly what I have and exactly what can be installed.

There should be questions and no error conditions whatsoever.

VP

 

[brmichael]

Is there a way to remove the Fat Channel items individually and keep only the ones that are included in the perpetual license?

 

[Trucky]

Is there a way to remove the Fat Channel items individually and keep only the ones that are included in the perpetual license?

I own a StudioLive SIII mixer that includes "Fat Channel Collection Volume 1" shown in the column on the right listed here.
I'm told it's also included for customers with a Studio One+ subscription.
I believe those shown in the left column (within the red boxes) are the standard FX included in the Studio One 7 Pro perpetual license.

Uninstalling the "Fat Channel Collection Volume 1" add-on should result in what you're asking.

 

[TheBassBagwhan]

It didn't even occur to me I could uninstall the not-so-impressive instruments. I suppose they can always be there if I want, but at the same time decluttering the Browse panel has appeal...
Hmm...