Possible bug with Separate Stems and more than one event?

[Number6]

Could somebody try this out. Should not take long.

STEPS

New song.
Add an audio event (music clip of about a minute or something, doesn't matter that much)
After that event, add another audio event on the same audio track, give it a gap of a fews seconds or so inbetween events).
Select both events by clicking on them with shift.
Right click -> Separate Stems
Click OK.
Observe it takes two steps to process.

EXPECTED.

Audio created for both events in a folder (4 tracks)

ACTUAL

Audio for just one event (4 tracks).

Please validate (I'm using Windows and 8.0.1)

Thanks!

 

[Number6]

Can repro on 8.0.2, I tried something different here.

I bunged a bit of Motorhead followed by a bit of Bowie on the same single track following each other with a slight gap, selected both events and did Separate Stems for all instruments (follow procedure as above).... this is what I got:

Can anybody repo? (see my first post too).
Thanks

 

[Gerran]

Mine works just fine....

 

[Midiboy]

What I would suggest until a fix does in...place your two events down, join them by extending one into the other, right clicking and then "merge". You can then split them later, after you split the stems, but at least you'll have them.

 

[Number6]

What I would suggest until a fix does in...place your two events down, join them by extending one into the other, right clicking and then "merge". You can then split them later, after you split the stems, but at least you'll have them.

Oh yeah this is easy to workaround, not asking for help. I'm just looking for somebody else to reproduce this so it can be reported to the dev team.

 

[Number6]

Mine works just fine....

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Weird. I repro this all the time. I'll try to see what I'm missing in the steps to reproduce.

 

[Number6]

Mine works just fine....

OK I just want to check if you followed this step:
Select both events by clicking on them with shift.

That is keep left shift held down on your keyboard, left click (with mouse) on the first clip on the left, and then left click the following clip (still keeping shift held down).
Both clips should be selected with white borders around them.

If you are selecting by another method, say, lassoing around both with your mouse, it will work as it is supposed to (which is good to know for me).

 

[Gerran]

I'm pretty sure I did, but my memory isn't known for its reliability lately. I'll try to redo the test later today if I can find the time..

 

[Number6]

I'm pretty sure I did, but my memory isn't known for its reliability lately. I'll try to redo the test later today if I can find the time..

Thanks. It's weird but how you select is important.

 

[Midiboy]

That is definitely a strange one. I just tried it, with the way you suggested by selecting both by holding shift...not lassoing...

And it worked perfect. I tried several different files, and tried changing the amount of time in between the events...worked every time. I wonder if this is related to the Audio Interface? I see you have a Quantum...I have a SSL. So...COULD it be audio driver related?

 

[Number6]

I very much doubt it's the audio interface. It's not being used for this.

I've created a video with audio (finally got OBS up and running again), maybe that will help, thanks:

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[Number6]

Just noticed something in my video, the first go which I stated "as you would expect" afterwards... well the clips on the right start late which is odd, see screenshot below from that video.
I then tried 1K tone files instead (not on video), that worked fine for the lasso selection, but the shift click selection method produced the same results.

 

[Midiboy]

I still think it COULD be audio driver. And that's from my 8 years as a project manager for Audio Cards for Diamond Multimedia. (I don't know how old you are, but do you remember that Monster Sound? That was mine)

But, it's not a hill I would die on. It's definitely a STRANGE issue for sure. For fun, change your rendering device to a different device if possible. Just to see...

 

[Number6]

I still think it COULD be audio driver. And that's from my 8 years as a project manager for Audio Cards for Diamond Multimedia. (I don't know how old you are, but do you remember that Monster Sound? That was mine)

But, it's not a hill I would die on. It's definitely a STRANGE issue for sure. For fun, change your rendering device to a different device if possible. Just to see...

It is not the driver, no sound is being recorded/played and no audio is coming in or out. Audio audio interface functionality isn't being used in any way, and therefore the driver would simply be doing nothing. This is purely processing.

To prove this, go to Tools-> Audio Setup and set the Audio Interface to "No Audio Device" and follow my steps to repro. You will easily be able to complete the steps without an interface. I've done this myself and it makes no difference, I can still repro (exactly the same).

Thx.

 

[Gerran]

Ok, tried it again, and have mixed results..
When I select the events in timeline order (left event first, right event second) I get the infobox telling me the stem separation is in progress, 2 steps and I see both files being processed BUT, only the last event gets separated in a folder named after the first event.
When I select the events in reverse order, I do get both events stem separated...
Strange...

 

[Number6]

Ok, tried it again, and have mixed results..
When I select the events in timeline order (left event first, right event second) I get the infobox telling me the stem separation is in progress, 2 steps and I see both files being processed BUT, only the last event gets separated in a folder named after the first event.
When I select the events in reverse order, I do get both events stem separated...
Strange...

You've basically reproduced my issue. Many thanks!

 

[Midiboy]

It is not the driver, no sound is being recorded/played and no audio is coming in or out. Audio audio interface functionality isn't being used in any way, and therefore the driver would simply be doing nothing. This is purely processing.

To prove this, go to Tools-> Audio Setup and set the Audio Interface to "No Audio Device" and follow my steps to repro. You will easily be able to complete the steps without an interface. I've done this myself and it makes no difference, I can still repro (exactly the same).

Thx.

Got it. That actually makes sense. Hopefully they can figure this one out...so are you saying it WORKS, if you lasso them? I guess that part is really mind blowing. Also, what would happen if you put the two on different tracks and selected both? Just curious.

 

[Gerran]

You've basically reproduced my issue. Many thanks!

I'll report it to support..

 

[Number6]

I'll report it to support..

Thanks. That is very much appreciated!