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Now this is pretty cool....

Nah, no problemo. I haven’t tried to do a lot of customization, yet. I’ve gor a few templates of varying purpose, and right now I am importing EW Hollywood and Fantasy Orchestra sound variation presets. One by one. :rolleyes:
It’s also around 98F/ 37C out there. My energy is limited.
You have my blessing, talk about a labour of love.

Best regards
 
All of these MIDI controllers a re a 'nice to have' not a 'need to have'. The MP controller seems to be great as a plugin controller, and perhaps a little less intuitive as a DAW controller - most of us (I think) prefer faders to touchscreens, and for those who do like touchscreens the Studio Pro Remote app for Android/iOS is free and is very capable.

I could see the MP controller competing with the Nektar CS12, Melbourne RotoControl, Softube Console 1 or the SSL UC1. All of these are intended to be used alongside a multi-fader unit (though the CS12 has all of the transport controls plus a single motorized fader, so could be freestanding) and I suspect many MP controller owners will combine it with a multi-fader controller of some sort. It does start getting expensive, but these units are intended to appeal to users with a bit of spare cash!

I will look closely at it later in the year, I'm sure!
 
All of these MIDI controllers a re a 'nice to have' not a 'need to have'. The MP controller seems to be great as a plugin controller, and perhaps a little less intuitive as a DAW controller - most of us (I think) prefer faders to touchscreens, and for those who do like touchscreens the Studio Pro Remote app for Android/iOS is free and is very capable.

I could see the MP controller competing with the Nektar CS12, Melbourne RotoControl, Softube Console 1 or the SSL UC1. All of these are intended to be used alongside a multi-fader unit (though the CS12 has all of the transport controls plus a single motorized fader, so could be freestanding) and I suspect many MP controller owners will combine it with a multi-fader controller of some sort. It does start getting expensive, but these units are intended to appeal to users with a bit of spare cash!

I will look closely at it later in the year, I'm sure!

In this scenario, you/we are in a fortunate moment in time.

IMHO., The situation with the current trend toward implementing Midi2 might possibly open up a more cohesive bi direction midi comms.
Hopefully with a slight sprinkling of AI fairy dust across midi control and H/Ware controllers could (head in the clouds) simplify how folk can do that thang.

Yes, I have a Faderport8 stacked next to my MP midi and it works well, navigation around FSP and other Daw tasks become shared across the devices, which is well worth considering.
My biggest headache was USB and Video ports. The MP midi requires 2 USB and a video port. (avoid usb hubs)
Then next, the desk space and having it all within easy reach.
I am a crumbly old fart and age takes it's toll and spending time with my arms extended is not nice.

Your list of controller's present many questions over which might integrate best with your existing gear etc,, on the plus side you get a big rush of retail therapy!
However, remember the GAS needs to be kept in check...🔥🧯:giggle:

Kindest regards
 
The encoders are continuous, but the software can have a bottom and top stop setting, They also feedback from the Vst GUI so the soft takeover is not an issue. It's a one for one scenario or in old terms WYSIWYG.
Well explained, including vst's and console, and what I was hoping to hear. That's fantastic that you can set limits, and the imaging follows as WYSIWYG. Reverse syncing, too. Nice!
Outstanding. You picked a winner here.
Interesting thought. I wonder if endless encoders with 'smart notch' exist, which activates when the selected parameter reaches min or max. Also great for rotary switches. That would be like having your cake and eating it too :)
A smart notch (or smart resistance) sounds cool. My question was based around I saw that encoders from the illustration might be endless, but that I also saw limits from the display band. Thinking there might be times an endless rotary knob could be used for constant rotation (scrolling, scrubbing, and such). Sintil8 detailed that, nicely. Only, I didnt catch true endless rotation as you kept with my question. Thank you. Sorry, for my late response. More on that...
Yeah, that can be done with a motor. But it looks like the knobs on that controller can only go from full left to 300° full clockwise right and can't keep going round and round as with an endless rotary encoder. So the motor is required anyway to set the physical position of the marked knob to the setting of the next parameter you select.
Yeah indeed, pursuing the endless rotary control question.
Endless rotary encoders don't send a knob position or parameter value but only send 'up' or 'down' so there is no need (for a motor) to reset the physical position of the knob.
Yeppers
But adding a stepper motor to an endless rotary encoder could provide the haptic feedback of end stops, center notches and rotary switch 'clicks'. Hmm... :unsure:
Now your messin' (a good thing). I think one or three Fender engineers heads just exploded 🤪 (Not from the Hamburg team).

Hiya Lokeyfly, are you getting settled in the new place?
Thanks for asking, my friend. My delay in responding is a good indicator of how busy I've been. But we are slowly getting settled. The regulars down here have insisted I say how crappy it is here, and that no one else should move here. I know why that is. So in short, its really crappy, and dont even think of ever living here. However, visitors are welcome to experience... well....paradise. ; )
 
Well explained, including vst's and console, and what I was hoping to hear. That's fantastic that you can set limits, and the imaging follows as WYSIWYG. Reverse syncing, too. Nice!
Outstanding. You picked a winner here.

A smart notch (or smart resistance) sounds cool. My question was based around I saw that encoders from the illustration might be endless, but that I also saw limits from the display band. Thinking there might be times an endless rotary knob could be used for constant rotation (scrolling, scrubbing, and such). Sintil8 detailed that, nicely. Only, I didnt catch true endless rotation as you kept with my question. Thank you. Sorry, for my late response. More on that...

Yeah indeed, pursuing the endless rotary control question.

Yeppers

Now your messin' (a good thing). I think one or three Fender engineers heads just exploded 🤪 (Not from the Hamburg team).


Thanks for asking, my friend. My delay in responding is a good indicator of how busy I've been. But we are slowly getting settled. The regulars down here have insisted I say how crappy it is here, and that no one else should move here. I know why that is. So in short, its really crappy, and dont even think of ever living here. However, visitors are welcome to experience... well....paradise. ; )
Good to hear you are settling in to really crappy and enjoying it. :cool:

The motorised rotary is a cool thing, but also imagine applying that to the flipped faders of a faderport for setting pan at C or even a notch at -10 db for volume. Choose any figure and have the fader reset/resist or locate for any number of task's.
There has to be some mileage to where dev could take it, are they motivated tho'?

Take care

Kindest regards
 
In this scenario, you/we are in a fortunate moment in time.

IMHO., The situation with the current trend toward implementing Midi2 might possibly open up a more cohesive bi direction midi comms.
Hopefully with a slight sprinkling of AI fairy dust across midi control and H/Ware controllers could (head in the clouds) simplify how folk can do that thang.

Yes, I have a Faderport8 stacked next to my MP midi and it works well, navigation around FSP and other Daw tasks become shared across the devices, which is well worth considering.
My biggest headache was USB and Video ports. The MP midi requires 2 USB and a video port. (avoid usb hubs)
Then next, the desk space and having it all within easy reach.
I am a crumbly old fart and age takes it's toll and spending time with my arms extended is not nice.

Your list of controller's present many questions over which might integrate best with your existing gear etc,, on the plus side you get a big rush of retail therapy!
However, remember the GAS needs to be kept in check...🔥🧯:giggle:

Kindest regards

GAS is alive and well here, which is why I’ve set myself a hard limit of no more gear this year! I don’t have room on my current desk for this device anyway. I may do when I build the desk for my new studio, but as that’s still very small it’s going to be marginal.

In fact, I’ve found the best general gadget for non-mouse control is the StreamDeck XL. Combine that with the completely wireless Studio Pro Remote and almost all bases are covered. Of course, because I like faders I also have an Icon P-1M and because I like displays and lots of coloured LEDs I have a Softube Flow Studio. So I can’t really justify anything else!
 
The regulars down here have insisted I say how crappy it is here, and that no one else should move here. I know why that is. So in short, its really crappy, and dont even think of ever living here. However, visitors are welcome to experience... well....paradise. ; )

I must have missed it, but where did you move to?
 
In fact, I’ve found the best general gadget for non-mouse control is the StreamDeck XL. Combine that with the completely wireless Studio Pro Remote and almost all bases are covered. Of course, because I like faders I also have an Icon P-1M and because I like displays and lots of coloured LEDs I have a Softube Flow Studio. So I can’t really justify anything else!
StreamDeck, nice ! They cover a lot of ground. I was lucky, picked up a second hand XL really cheap. Probably one of the best small bits of kit out there. Link that with the Remote app they cover a lot of the bases.

Be interesting to revisit this thread, if and when you decide to burn some cash!

Regards folks.
 
StreamDeck, nice ! They cover a lot of ground.
Streamdecks.jpeg
 
StreamDeck, nice ! They cover a lot of ground. I was lucky, picked up a second hand XL really cheap. Probably one of the best small bits of kit out there. Link that with the Remote app they cover a lot of the bases.

Be interesting to revisit this thread, if and when you decide to burn some cash!

Regards folks.

This is how it sits right now - as you can see, there ain't much spare room here!
Studio June 2026.jpg
 
What's that on the left? That looks handy, especially with angled strips
The kit from the left is: PreSonus Quantum ES2, Icon P-1M, StreamDeckXL, Flow Studio and Nektar Aruba. There’s a Quantum HD2 on the bridge (not yet in use) and an NI S88 Mk3 underneath. The monitors are Eris 5 BT, with a Sub 8 BT on the floor. The monitor is a Samsung 4k 43” TV.
 
The kit from the left is: PreSonus Quantum ES2, Icon P-1M, StreamDeckXL, Flow Studio and Nektar Aruba. There’s a Quantum HD2 on the bridge (not yet in use) and an NI S88 Mk3 underneath. The monitors are Eris 5 BT, with a Sub 8 BT on the floor. The monitor is a Samsung 4k 43” TV.

How do you like the Flow Studio? I was interested in one but wasn't sure if it would work with Studio Pro.
 
The kit from the left is: PreSonus Quantum ES2, Icon P-1M, StreamDeckXL, Flow Studio and Nektar Aruba. There’s a Quantum HD2 on the bridge (not yet in use) and an NI S88 Mk3 underneath. The monitors are Eris 5 BT, with a Sub 8 BT on the floor. The monitor is a Samsung 4k 43” TV.
The Icon is what I was referring to. Sweet
 
It works fine, and it's quite clever how it mixes effects to get an overall result using the various presets, but it comes into its own when you go into more detail with the individual plugins. But it only works with Softube plugins. They're making noises about including others (as they have with Console 1) but programming the display is likely to make that a big task. In a way it's similar to the SSL UC-1 in a much smaller package, but now the Nektar CS12 is compatible with Studio One/Pro, it maybe a better solution with its ability to control almost any plugin as well as having transport controls and a master motorised fader. But, as I think I said earlier - big display and lots of pretty lights. For that, it's a 'must have'!!
 
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