I would Like To See A Feature Request: Restore the pre-8.1 drag & drop replacement workflow

[SLIKTRAX]

Since updating to Fender Studio 8.1.1, I found the new drag & drop replacement workflow slowed down one of the most common editing tasks in my workflow.


The change was significant enough that I reverted back to version 8.0.3.111164 purely because of this issue.


My workflow involves auditioning large numbers of drum samples etc. During a session I may replace the same kick, snare or percussion sample dozens or even hundreds of times until I find the right sound.


Previously the workflow was simple:

• Hold Alt
• Drag a replacement sample
• Listen
• Repeat

Now it requires selecting the target event(s) before dragging a replacement, then repeating that selection every time I want to audition another sample.


For repetitive sample replacement this adds unnecessary steps to something that was previously quick and efficient.


I'm not asking for the new replacement modes to be removed. If other users find them useful, that's absolutely fine.


What I'm asking is for one of the following:

• Restore the pre-8.1 drag & drop behavior as the default, or
• Add a preference that allows users to choose between the legacy workflow and the new workflow.

That would allow users who prefer the new behavior to keep it while allowing existing users to continue working with the workflow they originally purchased the software for.


At the moment, the drag & drop changes are the only reason I've reverted to 8.0.3.111164 instead of continuing to use the latest version.

 

[dominicperry]

Stick it in a Feature Request on the Fender site - post the link here and I’ll vote for it, seems like a very reasonable request and sensible option to have.

 

[SLIKTRAX]

Stick it in a Feature Request on the Fender site - post the link here and I’ll vote for it, seems like a very reasonable request and sensible option to have.

I will sort that later today and thankyou, Sunday hours in the UK so I surfaced late

 

[SLIKTRAX]

As per request i sorted the Feature Request post

Feature Request

 

[AAV]

I upvoted your request. Thanks for creating it.

 

[lokeyfly]

My workflow involves auditioning large numbers of drum samples etc. During a session I may replace the same kick, snare or percussion sample dozens or even hundreds of times until I find the right sound.

Makng a request is always helpful, and I hope that works out with your workflow. I also understand having to revert back, when needs dictate
So as an alternative where it may apply...
If I may add a suggestion that might be worth consideration,, Instead of working with hundreds of samples, which I do understand is so vital for realism, or session tweaking. I assume you're dragging or positioning samples out on a grid? (per track). Or using somewhat long samples placed on a grid? Grid, meaning on the arrangement. A very effective way to minimize changing out samples is to drag samples onto an instrument, pad or key. That might be impact, Sample One, or your own hardware such as Machine, Roland drum machine, etc. Otherwise, it's the nature of the beast when having hundreds of samples placed out in the arrangement, or events that when rendered (frozen) take a long time to either play, change, or spool up. Working with an instrument, even with multiple samples, even in the hundreds, are way more efficient for a DAW to still be near instantaneous. I may not have your process fully down, but doing this for many years, and being a drummer and multi instrumentalist, typically such complaints that are about slow sample change processes, usually involve a re think towards workflow. I get that you had sufficient speed prior to ver. 8.1. It might even be due to some recent AI process, I don't know and bite my tongue for imagining such a thing. What I can offer is dealing with a huge number of samples (percussive at that), doesn't mean you have to take a hit on waiting

In the final analysis, you can render the instrument driven tracks to audio, anyway. However, session use and changing instruments quickly on the fly, shouldnt take long. OMMV, of course.

 

[SLIKTRAX]

Makng a request is always helpful, and I hope that works out with your workflow. I also understand having to revert back, when needs dictate
So as an alternative where it may apply...
If I may add a suggestion that might be worth consideration,, Instead of working with hundreds of samples, which I do understand is so vital for realism, or session tweaking. I assume you're dragging or positioning samples out on a grid? (per track). Or using somewhat long samples placed on a grid? Grid, meaning on the arrangement. A very effective way to minimize changing out samples is to drag samples onto an instrument, pad or key. That might be impact, Sample One, or your own hardware such as Machine, Roland drum machine, etc. Otherwise, it's the nature of the beast when having hundreds of samples placed out in the arrangement, or events that when rendered (frozen) take a long time to either play, change, or spool up. Working with an instrument, even with multiple samples, even in the hundreds, are way more efficient for a DAW to still be near instantaneous. I may not have your process fully down, but doing this for many years, and being a drummer and multi instrumentalist, typically such complaints that are about slow sample change processes, usually involve a re think towards workflow. I get that you had sufficient speed prior to ver. 8.1. It might even be due to some recent AI process, I don't know and bite my tongue for imagining such a thing. What I can offer is dealing with a huge number of samples (percussive at that), doesn't mean you have to take a hit on waiting

In the final analysis, you can render the instrument driven tracks to audio, anyway. However, session use and changing instruments quickly on the fly, shouldnt take long. OMMV, of course.

I have used (sample one) I am not a fan tbf, I also have Kick 3 and Psy kick I just don't like the way it feels and sounds. That said I much prefer manually slicing and placing the samples where I want such as say a kick roll it's just easier for me it's the work flow i learned and like working with plus it literally triggers my OCD as has changing the long term basic usage but that is a different issue on top.

I should probably note I am a UK Hardcore producer (I guess digital Producer is the term) I may use a midi controller at times, but mostly everything is in house (DAW to be precise).

 

[SLIKTRAX]

I upvoted your request. Thanks for creating it.

Thankyou I appreciate the help / support