Fender Studio Pro 8.0.1 - Discussion Thread

[Vocalpoint]

This is not helping

Note that my Device Buffer and Process Buffer are both 128.

For you - device buffer looks fine but cranking that Process Buffer to 1024 is going to have impacts...as you can see.

VP

 

[heanjurrera]

yeah as I posted before, disabling the Direct Monitoring (the Green Z thing from the previous versions, so, disabling Dropout protection) doesn't do anything on my install of v8 - it's still causing the same latency hit regardless of what I put there:

the settings I shared previously (dropout protection set to High etc) is what I've been using for years on v7 and can do essentially latency-free monitoring when tracking with no issues.

 

[Vocalpoint]

yeah as I posted before, disabling the Direct Monitoring (the Green Z thing from the previous versions, so, disabling Dropout protection) doesn't do anything on my install of v8 - it's still causing the same latency hit regardless of what I put there:
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the settings I shared previously (dropout protection set to High etc) is what I've been using for years on v7 and can do essentially latency-free monitoring when tracking with no issues.

Fair enough. However - there is a large difference between "Green" Z and Blue "Z" (using Studio One parlance)

How do I know the difference between hardware (DSP) monitoring and software (native) monitoring?

In the Studio One mixer, a small “Z” at the bottom of the output channel fader indicates the availability and type of monitoring. Blue stands for low-latency hardware monitoring, Green for low-latency software monitoring. The mode is set in the Audio>Processing preferences panel (“Use native low latency monitoring instead of onboard DSP”). Low-latency monitoring still needs to be activated by clicking the “Z” button on the respective output channel(s).

Your audio interface is key to this - my RME UCX-II enables Blue "Z" automatically and this that is why I have 0ms latency for guitars.

If you do not see Blue Z (or a "Blue D" within Studio Pro) - then your interface does not support low-latency hardware monitoring.

Yours seems to be green in your screencaps so this could be a reason you are seeing what you are seeing. Can't imagine that Fender missed this one during the development as they are most likely well acquainted with UA and it's hardware.

Also thought I read somewhere that enabled Efficiency Cores on a Mac impacted this process for some reason. I am a Windows guy so I do not have this - but I noticed that Efficiency (much slower cores) ARE enabled in your screen caps.

VP

 

[heanjurrera]

yes, I know my interface doesn't support Hardware monitoring/Blue Z/D, I'm not expecting to see it.
my only concern here is that the exact same settings from v7 perform worse on v8 and I can't really understand why.

 

[Vocalpoint]

yes, I know my interface doesn't support Hardware monitoring/Blue Z/D, I'm not expecting to see it.
my only concern here is that the exact same settings from v7 perform worse on v8 and I can't really understand why.

Are you saying you had 75ms of latency in v7 too and everything was fine?

75ms of latency would make me stick a pencil in my eye

Other questions:

"It's just not possible to play through amp sims in real time even when Low Latency Monitoring is enabled?"

1. What "sims" are we talking about?

2. Does your UA use a driver - and if so - is it fully supported under SP8?

All I can recommend now is to submit a support ticket and see what they say about this.

I have to be honest - have been talking with (and assisting) a wide swath of V8 users on both Windows and Mac with all sorts of audio interfaces - and I haven't noticed anyone reporting this issue.

If this was a rampant thing - pretty sure we would have heard about it.

VP

 

[heanjurrera]

Are you saying you had 75ms of latency in v7 too and everything was fine?

75ms of latency would make me stick a pencil in my eye

using low latency monitoring and high dropout protection, I'm getting reported 16.7ms or so while running amp sims along the rest of a session. Monitoring is basically instant with these settings on my daw so I honestly don't really pay attention to what it's reporting unless I have issues playing.

A new session on SP8, with just an Amp sim and a couple of other synths just goes into full slap back delay whether I have low latency monitoring on or off.

1. What "sims" are we talking about?

tried both NeuralDSP and Mustang. it's the same.

2. Does your UA use a driver - and if so - is it fully supported under SP8?

no such thing in Mac as needing to update drivers. I assume it is supported.

yeah I mean as I said I was just curious about v8 and probably won't be switching any time soon. I may wait to see a few updates later... I see it's apparently still on 8.0.1, so I guess I may drop a line to support one of these days.

Thanks!