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Solved Does Studio One have a macro method to set a specific length for a MIDI event?
- Thread starter Vocalpoint
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I haven't looked thru settings yet, but when I drag an 8 bar part from arranger to launcher it stays 8 bars
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Vocalpoint
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Promising. Clearly there is something going on here - as I have been dragging and dropping all morning
No matter what part length I drop - it gets clipped in half once in a Launcher cell.
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Gerran
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Just because I'm curious (it's not something in my workflow, I'll probably never use the macro again
) I replicated your 8 bar macro and tested the scenario. In the arranger, the macro makes an 8 bar part (as expected). When dragging that part into the launcher (first time I launched it as well) it was suddenly a 4 bar part.I'm on Windows too, so that seems to be the deciding factor...
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Vocalpoint
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Just because I'm curious (it's not something in my workflow, I'll probably never use the macro again
I'm on Windows too, so that seems to be the deciding factor...
Concur. Regardless of how I create an empty part - could be CTRL-P and drag. Could be set a range and double click it. Could be - use the macro - the part (in Arrange) is always good - but drag that to a Launcher Cell - and it's instantly cut in half.
Has to be some sort of strange Windows bug since the actual right click menu supplied with v1 of Launcher - is about as pedestrian as I have ever seen in a retail professional app. There is literally nothing you can do (or set) on a given cell - except adjust the quantize, set it as a loop or a one-shot - or Clear.
And there is a Delete there as well - and I cannot figure out what is different about that vs Clear Cell.
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VP - Does the part dragged to the launcher have the same number of beats as the source part in the arranger?
@Vocalpoint - I'm running Windows 11 (24H2).
The 8 bar empty part macro I posted earlier remains an 8 bars part when I drag it from arranger to launcher.
The 8 bar empty part macro I posted earlier remains an 8 bars part when I drag it from arranger to launcher.
Gerran
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True for me as well.
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Vocalpoint
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SOLVED.
My bloody template I was using for this test was in 2/4 of things. Setting to 4/4 solves it.
However - just open/closed/opened the "Record and Mix" (supplied) template and it comes in as 2/4 automatically.
Is this normal?
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Vocalpoint
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Trucky - I think you may be misunderstanding - this is a built-in Studio One Template:
It cannot be altered, overwritten or updated to my knowledge. You can't even launch it in Explorer - so it is not a standard template file.
And - I would never - ever - use 2/4 for anything.
Wherever this is coming from - is not possible for me to have saved or retained any data back to it.
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I am not dabbling with the Launcher, other than a quick look when ver. 7 was released, but from what I am reading here it appears there is a disconnect between the Launcher section and the settings in the arranger. V.P. maybe you have exposed a crack in the time space continuum?
Perhaps this is one for the Dev's to take note of...
Regards folks
Perhaps this is one for the Dev's to take note of...
Regards folks
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Vocalpoint
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It would not surprise me - but this so called "quick" test is turning into cracks in other areas I never thought possible - like now a discovery of an alteration of a built-in template (that I thought were untouchable) via some mysterious unseen force.
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Vocalpoint
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SOLVED!
Found the culprit in the Studio One.settings file.
Clearly see the 2/4 references baked in here - that's where this is coming from - and will edit that now. Whew!
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My response to you previously referred to the built-in Studio One "Smart Templates" (not "User") which works as I described...
To confirm, try the following steps...
1. Click New on Start page.
2. Click the "Templates" tab (not User) and select the "Record and Mix" Smart Template.
3. Change Time Signature to 3/4 and click [OK] to start song.
4. Close song.
Repeat steps 1 & 2 and check Time Signature setting.
It should match your previous 3/4 setting.
Per your screenshot above, you're using a "User" Template (instead of one of the built-in Smart Templates listed in left tab) which works as you described...
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is strange.Why did it truncate an 8 bar to 4 bars, it's a puzzle, I presume it's repeatable?
Similar to the timing issue with Quantize recording Input setting there is a disconnect between the Arranger page and the Launcher page.
I have some time this afternoon when I can test for myself, but I expect it will yield the same result.
Good the template issue got resolved tho'
Regards.
VP
Yes the result is, it truncates the graphic representation in the edit window of the L/Slot.
1] set new song using a clean Factory template, set 2/4 timing.
2] Create midi event 8 bars
3] Add 4, 1 bar notes, the next 4 bars an octave higher to the end of the 8 bars.
4] copy and paste to the launcher
result the notes are there but are half the length of the arranger event so everything gets squashed
into a 4 Bar event?
Repeat above with a 16 bar event, vary the note pattern Raised one octave every 4 bars
The events play as expected. The Launcher plays from the arranger window but the Launcher graphic
is truncated to 8 bars and the note lengths reduced by half.
It seems to be a *graphic alignment issue*, which is very confusing if you are editing the Launcher slot!!!!
Any edits need to be half of what the Arranger event is using... half the size?
A one bar note in the Launcher Slot Event needs to be drawn as a 1/2 a bar.
Did an odd meter 7/8 8 Bar with a 1/16th note repeat for 2 Bars then raise the next 2 bars an octave, repeat to fill all 8 Bars
Whilst it plays the Arranger pattern OK when viewing the L/Slot in the editor the graphic display for the slot is all over the place. It's 1/4 bar out and is 7 Bars long.
I stopped at this point, it's beyond my pay grade.
Regards
Sin.
Yes the result is, it truncates the graphic representation in the edit window of the L/Slot.
1] set new song using a clean Factory template, set 2/4 timing.
2] Create midi event 8 bars
3] Add 4, 1 bar notes, the next 4 bars an octave higher to the end of the 8 bars.
4] copy and paste to the launcher
result the notes are there but are half the length of the arranger event so everything gets squashed
into a 4 Bar event?
Repeat above with a 16 bar event, vary the note pattern Raised one octave every 4 bars
The events play as expected. The Launcher plays from the arranger window but the Launcher graphic
is truncated to 8 bars and the note lengths reduced by half.
It seems to be a *graphic alignment issue*, which is very confusing if you are editing the Launcher slot!!!!
Any edits need to be half of what the Arranger event is using... half the size?
A one bar note in the Launcher Slot Event needs to be drawn as a 1/2 a bar.
Did an odd meter 7/8 8 Bar with a 1/16th note repeat for 2 Bars then raise the next 2 bars an octave, repeat to fill all 8 Bars
Whilst it plays the Arranger pattern OK when viewing the L/Slot in the editor the graphic display for the slot is all over the place. It's 1/4 bar out and is 7 Bars long.
I stopped at this point, it's beyond my pay grade.
Regards
Sin.
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Vocalpoint
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Trucky
Thanks for this. It has been a long long time since I really took a deep look at one of these "smart" templates.
And sure enough - I totally forgot about this panel:
Which of course where the time signature can be set.
I took a look in a bunch of these smart templates both in v7 and v6.6.4 - and unbelievably - a bunch of mine were set to 2/4. Still have no idea why or how - as 2/4 is most certainly not my thing - but they are fixed now.
This has been an eye opener for sure.
Cheers!
VP