Why not put the full Notion in SO2025.06.01?

[Jeff]

I use the android Notion and the scoring in SO7. Since it looks like the full Notion is dying a slow death (and now that Cubase has a subset of Dorico which is very good), why not use it as a "Update" or "upgrade"? Of course, this is self-serving as I only do scores/classical. But just like including the Orchestra, why not do the whole scoring thing if you not going to bring it up to a Dorico level? With the Orchestra and Notion, I think a whole other class of people just starting out would find SO a viable alternative to the new Cubase who Dorico scoring subset is just bound to grow. Competition is very stiff right now and the "3 upgrades/improvements" thing could be solved since the core of Notion is already in SO. I'm just a hobbyist so I don't want the pain of learning a new program or 2, so I won't be jumping to Cubase anytime soon (understand it,s a pain to learn, where SO is really user friendly). It seems silly if you have a depreciated asset not to use it as a value added "one of 3" upgrades in these times. Just my 2 cents.

 

[Lukas]

Hi and welcome to the forum,

just a quick note: This is a user forum, so PreSonus product management does not actively read posts here (or at least not officially). If your intention was to send a message directly to PreSonus, this might not be the ideal place.

That said, I do have a very good line of communication with the product team and will definitely keep your feedback in mind for the next composition-focused meeting. It's already clear that the notation editor will continue to improve over time, and that more features from Notion will make their way into Studio One. It’s really just a matter of time.

If there are specific notation features you're currently missing, feel free to list them here - the more concrete, the better. I'll gladly pass on your current feedback, though I personally still see a strong case for keeping a DAW and dedicated notation software as separate tools, even if some overlap is both useful and important.

 

[SwitchBack]

Hi Lukas,

Further the separate tools, in your opinion what would be the most logical place to convert audio/midi tracks to a tidy score, AI assisted or not. Would that be Studio One (with Melodyne already in place for the audio to crude midi part) or Notion (with the broader score toolset already in place)? What would either need as a minimum to make conversion a breeze?

 

[Lukas]

To prepare a score intended for printing and live performance, I personally wouldn't use any built-in score editor in a DAW. I would always opt for dedicated notation software like Notion, Dorico, Sibelius, MuseScore, etc.

 

[SwitchBack]

Yes, I get that for the traditional compose-with-pencil-in hand-method, which always makes me think of medieval monks copying books. What I'm looking for is AI performing that task for me during say an improvisation jam session in Studio One. Melodyne does this attempt with heaps of double-dotted 1/64th notes and rests to capture all the tiny time shifts, intended or not. I'd love to see some intelligent clean-up tool for that, and having that in Studio One would keep some speed in the session. In this scenario Notion would come after.

 

[Lukas]

I'd love to see some intelligent clean-up tool for that, and having that in Studio One would keep some speed in the session. In this scenario Notion would come after.

I see. Yes, a lot of guesswork would have to done depending on the timing but it's a great use case for AI for sure. And I can see tools like that in the near future.

 

[Jeff]

Hi and welcome to the forum,

just a quick note: This is a user forum, so PreSonus product management does not actively read posts here (or at least not officially). If your intention was to send a message directly to PreSonus, this might not be the ideal place.

That said, I do have a very good line of communication with the product team and will definitely keep your feedback in mind for the next composition-focused meeting. It's already clear that the notation editor will continue to improve over time, and that more features from Notion will make their way into Studio One. It’s really just a matter of time.

If there are specific notation features you're currently missing, feel free to list them here - the more concrete, the better. I'll gladly pass on your current feedback, though I personally still see a strong case for keeping a DAW and dedicated notation software as separate tools, even if some overlap is both useful and important.

The time saver would be to have the articulations noted along the score. That would make it useable by pros without having to hand write them in (either by the composer or the players). Since SO does a pretty good job of bringing articulations in so you can use automation easily in changing articulations, this I think would be a real time saver. Just my 2 cents.