Tonex & Studio One 7 Pro

[trcsooner]

Tonex will work fine in stand-alone mode.

It will not work at all as a plug-in in Studio One 7 Pro. I can open it as a plug-in, I just can't get any signal.

Tonex is in interface mode and has the up to date drivers.

I beleive this is a routing issue within Studio One.

I don't even know what to set my input as in Studio One? I've never recorded from a usb source.

Does anyone know how to set Tonex up within Studio One?

Thanks

 

[Surf.Whammy]

Tonex will work fine in stand-alone mode.

It will not work at all as a plug-in in Studio One 7 Pro. I can open it as a plug-in, I just can't get any signal.

Tonex is in interface mode and has the up to date drivers.

I beleive this is a routing issue within Studio One.

I don't even know what to set my input as in Studio One? I've never recorded from a usb source.

Does anyone know how to set Tonex up within Studio One?

Thanks

Providing more information about your studio setup will be helpful, most of which you can put in your signature or profile.

For example, knowing whether you are using Mac or Windows will be helpful.

Based on what you described, my best guess is that you are asking about the hardware Tonex pedal rather than the VST effect plug-in, because using the Tonex VST effect plug-in is straightforward and works nicely.

I am keying on "usb source" and "up to date drivers", neither of which applies to the Tonex VST effect plug-in.

If you are asking about the hardware Tonex pedal, then the rules are a bit different.

Without thinking about it a while, I am not certain whether you can use the hardware Tonex pedal as an effect, although I suppose there is a way to do it.

If I had a hardware Tonex pedal, then I would plug an electric guitar into it and then take the USB output and connect it to the Mac or Windows computer running PreSonus Studio One 7.2.3 or the newer Fender Studio Pro 8. ]

I have a lot of guitar pedals, which I purchased before I discovered AmpliTube (IK Multimedia), which was a good but expensive way to learn about effects pedals, since all the effects pedals cost at least $5,000 as compared to perhaps $100 for AmpliTube; but even then you need something to get the electric guitar signal into the computer, although if you are using real effects pedals, then the output of the effects pedals is what you need to get into the computer, and that depends on whether the outputs are analog (TRS) or something else, in which case you need an external digital audio and MIDI interface, since they the outputs probably are analog (TRS) and you cannot plug TRS cables directly to your computer, hence the need for an external digital audio and MIDI processor. .

However, some devices connect to the computer via USB, so it depends on what you are doing and the equipment with which you are doing it.

Making it a bit more complex to guess, there are several different hardware flavors of Tonex.

Because you mentioned 'usb source", I will presume it's the full hardware Tonex pedal; in which case you will connect your electric guitar to the Tonex pedal and then will connect the Tonex pedal output to your computer via a USB cable.

From there, the Digital Audio Workstation (DAW) application (PreSonus Studio One Pro 7.2.3 or Fender Studio Pro 8) will need to be configured to see the Tonex pedal as an Input source for an Audio Track, which if it works the way I think it works--since at present I do not have a Tonex foot pedal--will be pretty much then same as doing it for a B.L.U.E. Snowball USB microphone.

At the moment, I have no idea whether you can send audio from the DAW to the Tonex foot pedal and then have Tonex do something and send the resulting audio back to the DAW, although anything is possible.

I think if you want to do it that way, then the best solution is to use the Tonex VST effect plug-in rather than the hardware Tonex foot pedal.

You will find some relevant images attached to this post, where the the physical input source will be the built-in microphone for an iMac, which will be similar to B.L.U.E. Snowball USB microphone but stereo, which conceptually will be the same as connecting a physical Tonex foot pedal to your computer via USB.

These are for macOS "Sonoma" 14.7.2, and it will be similar for a Windows machine. The screen captures are from PreSonus Studio One Pro 7.2.3, but they will be similar to the way it's done with Fender Studio Pro 8.

There will be one very important difference, which is that the output of Tonex will be stereo (two-channel) rather than monaural (one-channel) like the B.L.U.E. Snowball USB microphone or the built-in microphone for an iMac.

Observe also that Tonex output is standard CD quality (44,000 samples per second), which will need to match the way you have your DAW configured.

If I have guessed correctly, then this should be enough general information for you to make progress on getting it working.

[NOTE: The attached images are for using the built-in microphone of an iMac; so I will do another set of images for a B.L.U.E. Snowball USB microphone, which shouldn't take very long, since I have a system for doing these types of configuration images that I use in the volumes of my ongoing series, "The Art of Digital Music Production", which at present is available from Amazon own Kindle eBook format. ]

 

[Surf.Whammy]

Providing more information about your studio setup will be helpful, most of which you can put in your signature or profile.

For example, knowing whether you are using Mac or Windows will be helpful.

Based on what, my best guess is that you are asking about the hardware Tonex pedal rather than the VST effect plug-in, because using the Tonex VST effect plug-in is straightforward and works nicely.

I am keying on "usb source" and "up to date drivers", neither of which applies to the Tonex VST effect plug-in.

If you are asking about the hardware Tonex pedal, then the rules are a bit different.

Without thinking about it a while, I am not certain whether you can use the hardware Tonex pedal as an effect, although I suppose there is a way to do it.

If I had a hardware Tonex pedal, then I would plug an electric guitar into it and then take the output and connect it to the Mac or Windows computer running PreSonus Studio One or the newer Fender Studio Pro 8. ]

I have a lot of guitar pedals, which I purchased before I discovered AmpliTube ((K Multimedia), which was a good but expensive way to learn about effects pedals, since all the effects pedals cost at least $5,000 as compared to perhaps $100 for AmpliTube; but even then you need something to get the electric guitar signal into the computer, although if you are using real effects pedals, then the output of the effects pedal is what you need to get into the computer, and that depends on whether the outputs are analog (TRS), in which you need an external digital audio and MIDI interface.

However, some devices connect to the computer via USB, so it depends on what you are doing and the equipment with which you are doing it.

Making it a bit more complex to guess, there are several different hardware flavors of Tonex.

Because you mentioned 'usb source", I will presume its the full hardware Tonex pedal; in which case you will connect your electric guitar to the Tones pedal and then will connect the Tonex pedal output to your computer.

From there the Digital Audio Workstation (DAW) application (PreSonus Studio One Pro 7.2.3 or Fender Studio Pro 8) will need to be configured to see the Tonex pedal as an Input source for an Audio Track, which if it works the way I think it works--since at present I do not have a Tonex foot pedal--will be pretty much the as a B.L.U.E. Snowball USB microphone.

At the moment, I have no idea whether you can send audio from the DAW to the Tonex foot pedal and then have Tonex do something and send the resulting audio back to the DAW.

I think if you want to do it that way, then the best solution is to use the Tonex VST effect plug-in rather than the hardware Tonex foot pedal.

You will find some relevant images attached to this post, where the the physical input source will be a B.L.U.E. Snowball USB microphone, which conceptually will be the same as connecting a physical Tonex foot pedal to your computer via USB.

These are for macOS "Sonoma" 14.7.2, and it will be similar for a Windows machine. The screen captures are from PreSonus Studio One Pro 7.2.3, but they will be similar to the way it's done with Fender Studio Pro 8.

There will be one very important difference, which is that the output of Tonex will be stereo (two-channel) rather than monaural (one-channel) like the B.L.U.E. Snowball USB microphone or the built-in microphone for an iMac.

Observe also that Tonex output is standard CD quality (44,000 samples per second), which will need to match the way you have your DAW configured.

If I have guessed correctly, then this should be enough general information for you to make progress on getting it working.

[NOTE: The attached images are for using the built-in microphone of an iMac; so I will do another set of images for a B.L.U.E. Snowball USB microphone, which shouldn't take very long, since I have a system for doing these types of configuration images that I use in the volumes of my ongoing series, "The Art of Digital Music Production", which at present is available from Amazon own Kindle eBook format. ]

On a related note, the DAW's Reference Manual will provide information on each separate step, usually in some detail; but it will not tell you how to connect a Tonex foot pedal to your DAW (Fender Studio Pro 8 or PreSonus Studio One 7.2.3). The information is somewhere in the Reference Manual, but it's mostly focused on individual steps rather than all the necessary steps, although like everything, it depends on what is being described and explained.

[NOTE: Because the physical Tonex foot pedal will be stereo (two-channel), you will use a stereo Audio Track, and the inputs to the Audio Track will be Input 1 and Input 2. ]

This is the way it looks in Fender Studio Pro 8, but it will be the same or similar in PreSonus Studio One 7.2.3.

Remember that the Tonex VST effect plug-in is different from the physical Tonex foot pedal or other hardware variations

SOLUTION

I think the solution is to connect your electric guitar to the physical Tonex foot pedal and then to connect the physical Tonex foot pedal to your computer using a USB cable, which probably came with the Tonex from IK Multimedia, especially if it has a different non-USB connector on the other end of the cable, which is the way it works with the B.L.U.E. Snowball USB microphone.

Then configure it to match the attached Preferences and Audio Track, except it will be stereo instead of monaural.

If you only want to use Tonex as an effect plug-in, then use the Tonex VST effect plug-in which will work the same as AmpliTube 5 or any of the other IK Multimedia VST effect plug-ins and, of course, Waves, Wave Arts, McDSP, Native Instruments, iZotope, SugarBytes, and all the other VST effects plug-ins.

IMPORTANT

There is a way to use an external signal processor--which is what the physical Tonex foot pedal is--to augment and enhance audio in the DAW; but you will need an external digital audio and MIDI processor like the MOTU 828mk3 Hybrid, which is what I use.

How you route audio in real-time from Fender Studio Pro 8 to a MOTU 828mk3 Hybrid or similar device is another matter, and best wishes on discovering how to do that.

Regarding the various effects pedals I use, there are more of them on the floor which are not shown in the photo.

I think it's possible, but it's not something I have done or at the moment think I need to do.

[NOTE: When configuring the DAW application for a new hardware device, you might need to save and exit the DAW application, followed by restarting the DAW application. In some instances, you might need to reboot the computer, although toggling the DAW application (exiting and restarting) usually works. If you add some hardware but nothing appears to work, then save, exit, and restart the DAW application, since that synchronizes everything. This is how it works on the MAC, which is what I use.]

 

[Surf.Whammy]

On a related note, the DAW's Reference Manual will provide information on each separate step, usually in some detail; but it will not tell you how to connect a Tonex foot pedal to your DAW (Fender Studio Pro 8 or PreSonus Studio One 7.2.3). The information is somewhere in the Reference Manual, but it's mostly focused on individual steps rather than all the necessary steps, although like everything, it depends on what is being described and explained.

[NOTE: Because the physical Tonex foot pedal will be stereo (two-channel), you will use a stereo Audio Track, and the inputs to the Audio Track will be Input 1 and Input 2. ]

This is the way it looks in Fender Studio Pro 8, but it will be the same or similar in PreSonus Studio One 7.2.3.

Remember that the Tonex VST effect plug-in is different from the physical Tonex foot pedal or other hardware variations

SOLUTION

I think the solution is to connect your electric guitar to the physical Tonex foot pedal and then to connect the physical Tonex foot pedal to your computer using a USB cable, which probably came with the Tonex from IK Multimedia, especially if it has a different non-USB connector on the other end of the cable, which is the way it works with the B.L.U.E. Snowball USB microphone.

Then configure it to match the attached Preferences and Audio Track, except it will be stereo instead of monaural.

If you only want to use Tonex as an effect plug-in, then use the Tonex VST effect plug-in which will work the same as AmpliTube 5 or any of the other IK Multimedia VST effect plug-ins and, of course, Waves, Wave Arts, McDSP, Native Instruments, iZotope, SugarBytes, and all the other VST effects plug-ins.

IMPORTANT

There is a way to use an external signal processor--which is what the physical Tonex foot pedal is--to augment and enhance audio in the DAW; but you will need an external digital audio and MIDI processor like the MOTU 828mk3 Hybrid, which is what I use.

How you route audio in real-time from Fender Studio Pro 8 to a MOTU 828mk3 Hybrid or similar device is another matter, and best wishes on discovering how to do that.

Regarding the various effects pedals I use, there are more of them on the floor which are not shown in the photo.

I think it's possible, but it's not something I have done or at the moment think I need to do.

[NOTE: When configuring the DAW application for a new hardware device, you might need to save and exit the DAW application, followed by restarting the DAW application. In some instances, you might need to reboot the computer, although toggling the DAW application (exiting and restarting) usually works. If you add some hardware but nothing appears to work, then save, exit, and restart the DAW application, since that synchronizes everything. This is how it works on the MAC, which is what I use.]

This is the diagram IK Multimedia provides to how how to connect and use the Tonex Pedal.

For what you want to do, it's just a matter of connecting the electric guitar to the Tonex Pedal and then connecting the Tonex Pedal to the computer; but remember that you need to configure the computer to see the Tonex Pedal and the DAW to use it, as shown in my earlier posts to this topic.

If you have studio monitors, then they will connect to your computer, as will headphones if you are using headphone. I'm not certain what the IK Multimedia diagram is suggesting; but if you want to hear the audio from the DAW application, then use the second diagram, which I revised and updated.