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Tap Tempo During Playback No Longer Works

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bergnerm

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In Studio One, if I was listening to a song, I could use the Tap Tempo feature to tap along with the beat and get an approximate tempo setting (with the track set to Don't Follow).

When I try to do the same thing in Fender Studio Pro 8, each time it adjusts the tempo, the playback head stays at the same measure number, but with the adjusted tempo, making it impossible to use this feature as was possible in Studio One. In Studio One, the playhead would stay with where it was at in the audio file.

Is there a setting or something that I'm missing to fix this?
 
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That's a good point. It's a new feature in v8 that the cursor stays at the current musical position when the tempo is changed manually. However, I agree that it's useful to be able to use "Tap Tempo" during playback.

I'll put this on my list to discuss with product management / development.
 
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Lukas said:
It's a good point. It's a new feature in v8 that the cursor stays at the current musical position when the tempo is changed manually. However, I agree that it's useful to be able to use "Tap Tempo" during playback.

I'll put this on my list to discuss with product management / development.
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It was a feature I used relatively frequently, as I dig up some of my decades-old recordings and try to breath new life into them. Perhaps you could make it a general parameter setting to switch between one way or the other?

Thanks for your efforts, Lukas. I think you and your team have put together a wonderful product that I thoroughly enjoy, and the few nits I've encountered with v8 have not changed my opinion. I also enjoy your helpful videos!
 
Funny that you noticed this as I wasn’t sure what I was doing wrong being new user.
But I have an old iPhone handy that has the Metronome app on it so I was using that instead.

And if you want a complete tempo map you can create one in Melodyne. I haven’t figured out how to apply it to the existing project just yet.
 
John Vere said:
Funny that you noticed this as I wasn’t sure what I was doing wrong being new user.
But I have an old iPhone handy that has the Metronome app on it so I was using that instead.

And if you want a complete tempo map you can create one in Melodyne. I haven’t figured out how to apply it to the existing project just yet.
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As you can see from Lukas' post, it was something that changed between FSP 8 and PSO 7... there are many ways to cook an egg when it comes to tempo, but the ability to tap along with a song that was playing to get a general sense of the tempo is a feature I used quite a bit--it took about 10 min. before I figured out what was happening in FSP 8.
 
John Vere said:
And if you want a complete tempo map you can create one in Melodyne. I haven’t figured out how to apply it to the existing project just yet.
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Just drag the Melodyned track onto the tempo track.
 
bergnerm said:
Melodyne doesn't always do the best job at detecting tempo--it's not bad, but there are certain types of files it really doesn't work well with.
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True, I was merely referring to the quoted comment of @John Vere about figuring out how to apply the (whatever) results to the entire session..
 
Yes thanks for the info. I am well aware of Melodyne limitations. Been using it for tempo extraction for a long time in Sonar. And that is sort of how it works there. The difference is that you don’t need to apply Melodyne to the track first.

I’m helping an old band mate record his original songs. All he has is a Tascam hand recorder so they are stereo files guitar and vocals.

I first used Audacity to separate it into 2 tracks.
Then I was using Melodyne stand alone to export a midi tempo map using the guitar track.

You start the new project with the midi tempo track and then drag the vocals and guitar stems in.
Works good enough for what I need which is to structure the song so it’s a bit closer to the grid. But then of course the grid is not lined up and I have to drag the whole thing until it does.

Now I can add a bass as well as attempt a simple midi drum part.

So thank for the help and now I don’t have to use Melodyne in stand alone.

And that brings me back to the OP

What I like to do is set the project as close to the tempo as possible before I create the tempo map. Tap tempo is perfect for this.
Then I will also drag the audio so it starts on measure 2 on the downbeat.
 
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