Studio Pro 8 - Discussion Thread

[Vocalpoint]

I already tried re-installing but it did not help. And as I said it worked fine for a few days after the upgrade but today it suddenly stopped working.

Well - if this worked 5 days ago and not now - that means something has changed.

Anything else going on with this machine in the last 5 days? Windows Updates?

And - do you still have your prior version of Studio One installed? Can you screencap the Audio Setup from inside that version - so I can see the actual Roland driver being selectable in that dialog box?

VP

 

[Anon5733]

In S1 7.2.3 the audio setup now looks the same as in FSP8. So it seems that the V-Studio driver suddenly decided to quit but isn't it strange that the Focusrite interface doesn't work either?

 

[Vocalpoint]

In S1 7.2.3 the audio setup now looks the same as in FSP8. So it seems that the V-Studio driver suddenly decided to quit but isn't it strange that the Focusrite interface doesn't work either?

Well - Windows is simply not designed to handle multiple interfaces at the best of times so installing two or three is a recipe for trouble.

And it is not possible for drivers to just "quit". If they are not even showing up in the dropdown - that is different problem.

Over here - there is only one audio interface. Everything else is removed in the BIOS - especially the cheesy Reaktek chip that comes with my motherboard - permanently disabled so there is no chance of any interference within Windows.

You also have not mentioned what kind of computer this is - that could be helpful as well.

If it was me - the FocusRite would be my go-to - but if it does not appear in that dropdown - you have major driver install issues.

VP

 

[THW]

I'm new here but I have a serious problem. Suddenly FSP8 stopped recognizing my audio interface - Roland V-Studio 100 - at start-up and reverts to Windows audio. I also tried with a Focusrite Scarlett 2i4 and it was the same. After I upgraded to FSP8 for a few days everything worked fine so I wonder what to problem might be. I checked the cables etc. and in other apps my interfaces work just fine.

Application Studio Pro 8.0.0.110141 Win x64
System Microsoft Windows 11 Home
Version 10.0.26100
CPU Model Intel64 Family 6 Model 158 Stepping 10
CPU Speed 2.59 GHz
CPU Cores 12
RAM 32.00 GB
Disk INTEL SSDPEKKW010T8L

All else I can think of (if you havent already tried...or been suggested) can you get into the focusrite or roland control panels? Curious if windows and asio driver sample rates are mismatched. Ensure its all set to 44.1 kHz or 48 kHz. Also, in windows sound settings (for both playback and record), selecting your interface, advanced tab, ensure "allow applications to take exclusive control" is unchecked. Make sure studio pro is closed doing this. I would reboot, and ensure apps aren't taking exclusive control...maybe something there. Idk.

 

[Anon5733]

Thank you for your advice. I guess it's time to upgrade the audio interface.

 

[carlcaulkett]

I'm trying out the Audio to MIDI for the first time. I've loaded up an 8 bar Reggae drum loop, and have set the tempo to match (134bpm).
I'm choosing Audio -> Extract Drums, whereupon I see this message...

When I select Yes, I come to this dialog...

At this point, whether I select "Install 1 items" or if choose "Full Installation", which gives me the option of "Install 25 items (38.24 GB)", I end up being prompted with another option "Install form File..." which leads to a file dialog defaulting to my "Songs" fodler.

If I need additional drum sounds to be installed, then I would expect Studio Pro to call back to Fender HQ and download the necessary files.
It clearly isn't doing this.

What am I missing here? Or to broaden the question, how do I ensure that all the downloadable content for Fender Studio Pro is downloaded and ready for me to use?

 

[nameerf76]

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So the fact that it was 'Studio One Pro' for the last several versions of the program didn't count, but put 'Fender' in front of it and it becomes intimidating?

They obviously had a plan to have the entry level "Fender Studio" and the more advanced (or intimidating!) "Fender Studio Pro". Makes sense I guess.

 

[John Vere]

I own 3 different ASIO interfaces. Moto, SSL and a Zoom L8 mixer. I have different reasons to switch between them from time to time. It is not an issue for any of the Daw’s I use in General. I simply turn off the one I was using and turn on the one I want BEFORE I start the Daw.
Some Daw’s will just ask me if it’s okay to use it.

Never had issues ever. So there’s 3 ASIO drivers installed and the Motu and SSL drivers start up with Windows even if the interface is not turned on.

And to add to the dumb discussion about the name.
The One had to go. Studio one eight? Is that 18?? That’s stupid. I don’t blame them.
And so we simply have Studio Pro instead of Studio one. That’s a great idea.
And everyone seems to not get that it was Presonus Studio one.
Presonus is history.
Fender Studio one eight sounds even dumber.

Nobody ever uses the brand name anyway. Do you always say Steinberg Cubase, No, you just say Cubase and then we all know exactly what you mean. Avid Pro Tools? No just Pro Tools.
Now we just swap out the redundant one for a Pro. Studio Pro. With in a few months everyone will forget about the one.

 

[SCartz]

If only those two—Arturia Keylab and NI Komplete Kontrol mkIIIs—were the only scripts Presonus, whoops, Fender hasn't gotten around to smoothing out or originating the level of integration you're talking about. There's a bunch more of them (Roland Fantom and Yamaha Montage, to name just a couple). That shot of Nile Rodgers says it all. We're old school. We're guitar oriented. We don't need to be in the MIDI Association. We don't need to work with other companies on technologies that float all boats.

I haven't heard it, and may never hear it, but I'd bet my last dollar UA's Paradise Guitar Studio eats "Mustang" for lunch.

Enough other people give a damn about the name, you can sit that one out

You had to be there right at the start of Studio One, their proud advertising boast was “look mum - no midi” - it was, in my opinion, a mistake/oversight by the developers not to fully embrace the advantages of midi implementation that’s never been fully addressed/corrected….
That being said, I’m proud to have supported and used Studio One since version 1 but I still need to fire up Bandlab/Sonar, now and again, to open some older projects (transferred to Studio One) to be able to readily analyse the original midi info/programming used so that I can point S1 in the right direction..!

 

[MisterE]

You had to be there right at the start of Studio One, their proud advertising boast was “look mum - no midi” - it was, in my opinion, a mistake/oversight by the developers not to fully embrace the advantages of midi implementation that’s never been fully addressed/corrected….
That being said, I’m proud to have supported and used Studio One since version 1 but I still need to fire up Bandlab/Sonar, now and again, to open some older projects (transferred to Studio One) to be able to readily analyse the original midi info/programming used so that I can point S1 in the right direction..!

They also saw the diminishing sales of behemoth MIDI workstations around 2014 and figured that was going to be the end of MIDI. Before you knew it, all sorts of cool little MIDI synths were introduced and loads of people had discovered the joys of MIDI VSTIs. It took them years to hire Gregor and Lukas and get back on the MIDI path—years I voted with my pocketbook as I stayed on V2 till I came back to the fold once they threw some reasonably decent MIDI together for V5. Looks like I may be on V6 for a while.

I may sound like it, but I'm not entirely pessimistic. If the developers are forced to stay laser focused on the guitar track, I'll probably stray, even though I'm a guitar player, but something significant on the MIDI side could possibly convince me to get past the vanity name(s). And I still give the developers their due for their series of low-problem releases in the Fender (unbranded) era.

 

[Brop]

I have some conflicting thoughts in general on the changes.

If SP keeps getting better, great. And v8 is fine. There are still many improvements I'd like to see, but currently it's still the best daw for me. Why wouldn't it be, it hasn't lost any features only gained them.

But I do worry Fender won't focus on advanced users and 'pro features' going forward.

I guess it's mostly a wait and see what happens for now.

 

[Airwave]

I really like the "New Studio Pro Version" though I'm not an ultra-technical user, I have been using the software for the last four years.
I've been a Perpetual user and enjoyed most of the capabilities, I do also have Cubase (13 pro) but in the last few years never use it.

The last week after downloading, I've noticed a number of changes but for the better, even the "header bar" on the top from White to Blue.
I don't mind little improvements as long as they are stable. I use to use Cakewalk sonar, and before then Pro Tools HD, stability is most important.

I don't know a lot about Fender (though I am a guitarist) of they're priorities, I can only hope for the best. So far the software has been Great!

 

[sintil8]

I'm trying out the Audio to MIDI for the first time. I've loaded up an 8 bar Reggae drum loop, and have set the tempo to match (134bpm).
I'm choosing Audio -> Extract Drums, whereupon I see this message...
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When I select Yes, I come to this dialog...

View attachment 2845
At this point, whether I select "Install 1 items" or if choose "Full Installation", which gives me the option of "Install 25 items (38.24 GB)", I end up being prompted with another option "Install form File..." which leads to a file dialog defaulting to my "Songs" fodler.

If I need additional drum sounds to be installed, then I would expect Studio Pro to call back to Fender HQ and download the necessary files.
It clearly isn't doing this.

What am I missing here? Or to broaden the question, how do I ensure that all the downloadable content for Fender Studio Pro is downloaded and ready for me to use?

I don't know if you have sorted this out or not, if not you might start by checking one or two things.

Top line check your Installed Content, is that showing content.

Also, have a look in the "install options", bottom of your graphic (to the left of the green (install 1 items (15.00 MB)). What does that show?
It should point to your Fender Account as the download source and the locations that it will install packages to, is that all setup OK ?
The download directories can be set to a place of your choice, useful if you use seperate drives for samples etc.

If that is all OK you should be able to select what packages you want to install and click the green install button.

Best Regards

 

[THW]

Morning rant:
Would love if this thread could continue to pivot from name change woes to what features folks are enjoying (or not), or what 'advanced or pro' features remain absent or underdeveloped. Are they affecting the quality/output of users music? Genuine question.
For me, I would want to see continued attention to midi editing, like deeper articulation control and cc lane tools. The few I hear requested in detail seem quite specialized or geared toward working with traditional film score/large orchestral templates, where I view that S1 has leaned into track presets/drag and drop functionality... I think for the majority of "pro" or advanced workflows, StudioPro is quite capable...why would someone change daws and learn a new ecosystem if someone has been using Cubase to earn for decades to make music. My thought is those that have were attracted to the S1 workflow, probably in the 'golden era' of updates between v4 and v6. Its been 10 years or so that Ive spent in S1. I know my way around other daws, but I know Studio Pro more than the others and after a few days with it, have no intention of jumping ship, but it certainly crossed my mind the more time I spent on socials.

I read comments all the time about lack of advanced features and concern about direction. Often these are vague...not substantive. On Reddit in particular, they read to me as tired, parrotted talking points.

Would love to know why I am wrong...please educate me.

 

[TimC340]

I’ve given up with the Reddit threads - full of moaners still fixated with the name change, and I suspect most of these haven’t actually used the new program! If you believed anything said in those threads, Steinberg and Ableton should be expecting a landslide of high value customers this week…

That said, there seem to be a fairly high number of bugs that need rapid squashing so that all genuine users can make their own reasoned assessment of Studio Pro, and can then start thinking about what features they’d like enhanced or added for the future.

 

[sintil8]

Morning rant:
Would love if this thread could continue to pivot from name change woes to what features folks are enjoying (or not), or what 'advanced or pro' features remain absent or underdeveloped. Are they affecting the quality/output of users music? Genuine question.
For me, I would want to see continued attention to midi editing, like deeper articulation control and cc lane tools. The few I hear requested in detail seem quite specialized or geared toward working with traditional film score/large orchestral templates, where I view that S1 has leaned into track presets/drag and drop functionality... I think for the majority of "pro" or advanced workflows, StudioPro is quite capable...why would someone change daws and learn a new ecosystem if someone has been using Cubase to earn for decades to make music. My thought is those that have were attracted to the S1 workflow, probably in the 'golden era' of updates between v4 and v6. Its been 10 years or so that Ive spent in S1. I know my way around other daws, but I know Studio Pro more than the others and after a few days with it, have no intention of jumping ship, but it certainly crossed my mind the more time I spent on socials.

I read comments all the time about lack of advanced features and concern about direction. Often these are vague...not substantive. On Reddit in particular, they read to me as tired, parrotted talking points.

Would love to know why I am wrong...please educate me.

Me and Reddit, take it with a large pinch of salt.
However Midi, I have a list, but just one for now.
With current method the extra midi tracks/channels needed seems unecessary... I would be overjoyed if 3rd party Midi inserts could be sorted (or allowed).
To start seeing a Midi pre instrument inserts slot_s allowing 3rd party ins. would make me happy.

Best regards.

 

[THW]

I’ve given up with the Reddit threads - full of moaners still fixated with the name change, and I suspect most of these haven’t actually used the new program! If you believed anything said in those threads, Steinberg and Ableton should be expecting a landslide of high value customers this week…

That said, there seem to be a fairly high number of bugs that need rapid squashing so that all genuine users can make their own reasoned assessment of Studio Pro, and can then start thinking about what features they’d like enhanced or added for the future.

Completely agree. I decided to scroll reddit this morning, departure from my usual routine. Big mistake!

Acknowledging we are still in early stages...I am just eager to continue hearing from the genuine and knowledgeable users on this forum.

The other day I got squared away on OBS to record some videos for another community I am part of (modern metal academy), and after watching some "is this the end of studio one?" YouTube videos (fell for the click bait), and seeing a few that missed/overlooked/complained about features that are in fact present and functional, I started recording my own, with the approach of writing short a short cue while using the new/updated features, as composition videos are by far my favorite to watch. Maybe will post, time permitting and my edit is decent. I enjoy the process, anyway. Cathartic.

 

[THW]

Me and Reddit, take it with a large pinch of salt.
However Midi, I have a list, but just one for now.
With current method the extra midi tracks/channels needed seems unecessary... I would be overjoyed if 3rd party Midi inserts could be sorted (or allowed).
To start seeing a Midi pre instrument inserts slot_s allowing 3rd party ins. would make me happy.

Best regards.

Yes! Thank you for sharing!

 

[Brop]

what 'advanced or pro' features remain absent or underdeveloped.

Just off the top of my head.

Improved sound variations. I'm not one of those that's desperately after per articulation delay because I'm not convinced it always works that well, but wouldn't be against it being implemented. I think other improvements can be made though. A way of having articulations 'stick' to notes so notes can be freely moved around without losing connection to the articulation. The basic functionality does already exist with the score articulations but it's not fully fleshed out.

Piano roll CC lane improvements. Not sure I need to go into detail but there's a bunch of improvements that could be made around presets, customization, workflow improvements. Maybe even the ability to bulk edit automation across multiple tracks.

Scrubbing. A missing pro feature really.

Notation improvements. There's a bunch of things that could be done. Maybe even something fairly experimental like the ability to have multiple midi tracks displayed on a stave as a single editable instrument.

There's a whole bunch more things that could be improved or added. None of these ideas stop me from making music of course but still.

Not so much a feature request but probably more important than anything is I'd want the team to continue to have a focus on stability and performance. Not just for projects with a small amount of tracks but projects under heavy load and with large track counts.

 

[sintil8]

Yes! Thank you for sharing!

I retired quite a few years ago and to be honest I struggle with this notion between Pro and hobbiest, i see myself more as a casual user. That doesn't preclude me from being experienced or dissintrested or from continuing to be creative. This daw is a tool for music creation, but the idea that it's a Gucci label driven software is misleading. Why should it be judged by what it's called ie. (supplement a brand name) and I find it devisive. You pay your money and hopefully enjoy it, that's my take. The ppl in the kitchen cooking up features are still the same folk.

The history of other Daws and failing is known. The idea that a buy out is a self fullfilling prophecy as a road to nowhere can be avoided.
Mark Twain " the rumours of my death... quote springs to mind.
Untill someone from Fender starts knocking nails in coffins were good to go.

Just a IMHO thing.

Kindest of regards