Studio One Pro Update Releases?

[OneBass]

Here's the English translation (kindly translated by @Trucky):

https://lukas-ruschitzka.com/content/interview-matthias-juwan-2019-english.pdf

Sure, a few years have passed since the interview, but everything in there still gives a good idea of who’s behind Studio One. And while big decisions are always made behind the scenes, PreSonus is still pretty transparent compared to a lot of other DAW companies.

Thanks for sharing this, an interesting read for sure.
Two comments jumped out.

1. These include a simple, intuitive workflow, drag-and-drop and, if possible, no dialogues or options that the user needs to understand.
2. We attach great importance to a consistent look and consistent user guidance.

Tell the team to keep up the good work!

 

[Craig Anderton]

I'm calmly waiting for dim solo...

FWIW I was one of the early "give us dim solo" people. But it didn't happen, so I came up with the workaround described in the blog. At this point, if dim solo was added as a feature the same way it is in other programs, I wouldn't use it. I find the workaround to be more useful and flexible, especially for comping.

 

[lokeyfly]

Thanks for posting the interview Lukas with Matthias Juwan, and to you Trucky as well, for the excellent translation.

 

[Crossinger]

I must admit that I cannot imagine any new major features that I’m currently missing. I’d rather see improvement and refinement of what’s already implemented. OK, stability improvements on Apple Silicon? I’m all in! But I would also love to see, e.g. a usable randomization feature (steps and velocity) to fill lanes in pattern events with a single click. Or some overhaul of the existing automation feature display in tracks (for better readability). There are precedents for this kind of update, such as the macro window or sound variations. And these kinds of “features” I definitely favor over another sample-based instrument I’ll probably never use.

 

[Sombreuil]

I must admit that I cannot imagine any new major features that I’m currently missing. I’d rather see improvement and refinement of what’s already implemented. OK, stability improvements on Apple Silicon? I’m all in! But I would also love to see, e.g. a usable randomization feature (steps and velocity) to fill lanes in pattern events with a single click. Or some overhaul of the existing automation feature display in tracks (for better readability). There are precedents for this kind of update, such as the macro window or sound variations. And these kinds of “features” I definitely favor over another sample-based instrument I’ll probably never use.

Studio One is missing a lot of instruments, like a looper, a granular synth, etc. Other than that, it's really close to the perfect software when it comes to my own case.

 

[Vocalpoint]

Studio One is missing a lot of instruments, like a looper, a granular synth, etc. Other than that, it's really close to the perfect software when it comes to my own case.

It is definitely not missing a "looper" - that is for sure. Many ways to do that espeically the new Launcher.

Granular Synth? Pretty sure every third-party instrument basically runs circles around any stock synth in S1 - so best to just devote that development time to core S1 functionality work - rather than burning more DEV time on something no one will use.

VP

 

[Sombreuil]

It is definitely not missing a "looper" - that is for sure. Many ways to do that espeically the new Launcher.

Granular Synth? Pretty sure every third-party instrument basically runs circles around any stock synth in S1 - so best to just devote that development time to core S1 functionality work - rather than burning more DEV time on something no one will use.

VP

The launcher isn't really helpful when you want to loop, for instance, a guitar in real time, a looper would be better. Pretty much any DAW has one.

For the synth, I have to disagree. Many artists love and use the granular synth in Reason or Live for instance. If we follow that logic, we could also dump all the tools in Studio One because third-party companies have better alternatives.

 

[Vocalpoint]

The launcher isn't really helpful when you want to loop, for instance, a guitar in real time, a looper would be better.

Got it. I use Audio Damage Enso for this. Have not found anything better.

If we follow that logic, we could also dump all the tools in Studio One because third-party companies have better alternatives.

And many of us actually do just that. Luckily Studio One (among all DAWs) does have some excellent stock plugs - but if it came down to it - I could easily do without any of the synths that come with the program.

Each to their own I guess

VP

 

[Sombreuil]

Got it. I use Audio Damage Enso for this. Have not found anything better.



And many of us actually do just that. Luckily Studio One (among all DAWs) does have some excellent stock plugs - but if it came down to it - I could easily do without any of the synths that come with the program.

Each to their own I guess

VP

I also use Enso, I just wished there was an in-built solution for it.

For the stock instruments/plugins, I also use third-party softwares, but once again, I wish I didn't have to use Pro-Q 3. As an example, Charlie Clouser explained that he used Logic's stock delay because it's the only one that had a specific feature he needed.

I don't think something like that would ever happen (to me) with S1's stock plugins.

 

[Vocalpoint]

I also use third-party software, but once again, I wish I didn't have to use Pro-Q 3.

I was all in on Pro EQ for the longest while until I finally nabbed Pro-Q3 (and now Pro Q-4).

If more Presonus plugs were as good as Pro EQ - I would certainly use them more. But speaking pound for pound - I still think the S1 stock plugs beat down any other DAW out there. We are very lucky to have them - this good.

VP

 

[ianaeillo]

Yeah, the Fat Channel emulation stuff is really quite good. Few months ago my 160VU went down. As I had done about 80% of the record with it on bass at that point, I was forced to either pony up for the waves variation, trial some other stuff, or just use the Fat Channel version. The fat channel version behaved as expected and sounded quite nice. The 670 is another example of a well done plugin. Sounds nearly as good as the MJUC, which I consider the gold standard of Varimu emulators. The 1176 and Pultec aren't very good, but there's some great stuff in there for sure.

 

[Craig Anderton]

Studio One is missing a lot of instruments, like a looper,

Here's a listing of 20 free VST loopers, maybe that will help. I haven't tried them, so I can't vouch for whether they're good or not (I prefer hardware loopers for live performance).

 

[ThomasM]

I also use Enso, I just wished there was an in-built solution for it.

For the stock instruments/plugins, I also use third-party softwares, but once again, I wish I didn't have to use Pro-Q 3. As an example, Charlie Clouser explained that he used Logic's stock delay because it's the only one that had a specific feature he needed.

I don't think something like that would ever happen (to me) with S1's stock plugins.

Two plugins I would miss from S1 is RedLightDist and Analog Delay. Been testing Reaper on a more serious note lately and gladly discovered that I bought(?) Presonus Hub a few years ago and can therefore use them in Reaper.

Reaper, by the way, has had 9 updates. This year.

 

[Craig Anderton]

I may have a different view of the bundled effects than many people. Some of the effects have uncommon features that I appreciate, like the Expander’s upward expansion, and the Multiband Dynamics being able to do frequency-selective upward expansion as well as focusing EQ. Also, the Channel Strip has a proportional Q option—you don’t have to buy an API plugin. Sure, the Fabfilter Pro Q 4 is great but realistically, you’re not going to find a $180 plugin in a DAW that costs $199 for a perpetual license.

However, the main reason I like the bundled effects is because using them with the Splitter makes them more like Legos to me, and their low CPU consumption lets me make pretty deep FX Chains. Having macro controls to simplify the UI is another bonus. Some of my favorite FX chains include a tape emulator, multiband maximizer, vintage through-zero flanger, tilt EQ, talk box, transient shaper, virtual room mics, 6-to-12 string converter for guitar, expanded New York-style compression, and even a Vox Crybaby wah emulation. Some of these have no commercial equivalent, but even if they do, when I make my own the FX chain does exactly what I want. For example, I use my FX Chain transient shaper for many more applications than my commercial versions.

 

[yashonthebeat]

Hi

Didn’t Presonus say they were going to roll out 4 major updates per year?

Considering it’s April and we are on version 7.1 that gives Presonus only 8 months to release 3 new major updates….

Studio One needs to update the stock samplers (No Fade functionality, No ability to auto detect the root note of samples). Peak level meter readings on every track will be a welcome addition (it is present only on the master track). The file browser has some bugs which haven't been fixed yet. Studio One cannot utilise all the cpu cores efficiently on Apple Silicon based computers. Pro Tools and Cubase have been able to fix that.

 

[Gary Shepherd]

Studio One needs to update the stock samplers (No Fade functionality, No ability to auto detect the root note of samples).

Do you mean Presence? Always found it really good - I bought the editor add on years ago before they made it free for the new guys. Don't really understand what you mean - when you build up a patch from samples you can do pretty much everything including the fade in or out and the loop point. And I tend to know what the root note of a sample is as I have added the samples myself. So I am a bit puzzled.

As for Sample One , I don't think I have ever even opened it and can't see any use for it. Presence does it for me.

 

[yashonthebeat]

Do you mean Presence? Always found it really good - I bought the editor add on years ago before they made it free for the new guys. Don't really understand what you mean - when you build up a patch from samples you can do pretty much everything including the fade in or out and the loop point. And I tend to know what the root note of a sample is as I have added the samples myself. So I am a bit puzzled.

As for Sample One , I don't think I have ever even opened it and can't see any use for it. Presence does it for me.

I am talking about Impact XT and Sample One.

 

[yashonthebeat]

I am talking about Impact XT and Sample One.

I'm trying to switch from Logic Pro and the samplers in logic are absolutely amazing. Quick Sampler and Multi Sampler are a lot better. I found a 3rd party alternative for impact XT. It's called Speedrum 2 by apisonic. Hopefully they update things in the upcoming versions.

 

[Craig Anderton]

Hopefully they update things in the upcoming versions.

YMMV but given a choice, I'd prefer that PreSonus concentrate on the DAW rather than the instruments. There are hundreds (thousands?) of VIs to choose from, but only one Studio One.

For example, I'd rather see a button in the Arrangement view that shows whether any tracks are in record mode, the same way there are buttons that show whether any tracks are in mute or solo mode. Some of the most significant updates for me are the little things, like when they added the button that auto-zooms tracks vertically, horizontally, or both in the Arrangement view. I use that dozens of times, every day.

 

[ianaeillo]

For example, I'd rather see a button in the Arrangement view that shows whether any tracks are in record mode, the same way there are buttons that show whether any tracks are in mute or solo mode

Best idea ever