Status of Add-Ons Like Ampire, High-Density Pack, Fat Channel, etc.?

[Craig Anderton]

I tried search but can't find a definitive answer. For example, Studio One Pro+ included the High-Density Pack for Ampire. Fender Studio Pro+ does not, nor does Fender Studio Pro include Ampire. PreSonus had plug-ins that worked with the PreSonus Hub. Will that be continued?

This makes updating the tips book all the more difficult. I could eliminate any tips with Ampire, but it has a long history of being included and many usess have it. Or, I could adapt the tips for only the Fender amps...or retain tips with Ampire but also include a version for Fender amps.

And what about the other paid add-ons that were included in Studio One Pro+, like the CTC-1? They're not included in Fender Studio Pro+. So users still have them available if you have Studio One Pro+, but if you have Fender Studio Pro+, can you still buy them? Being able to buy the add-ons was always sketchy after PreSonus closed down their shop.

Updating the tips book is becoming a migraine headache. v8 people will still have the "forbidden" plug-ins if they had a Studio One Pro+ subscription, so tips based around those plug-ins are still relevant. But not to perpetual Studio One uses, or new users. Maybe v8 users will be able to buy them. Maybe not. Does anyone have an idea of how this situation is being handled?

 

[TimC340]

As far as I can tell, any plugins that came with versions of S1 that you bought years ago are still available to be downloaded and used in SP8, even if they were discontinued in later versions’ packages.

 

[Craig Anderton]

Thanks, but I still wonder what happens for, say, a new user who wants to use the CTC-1 (which I think is one of the better Mix FX)? Or, someone with a different program but uses plug-ins with PreSonus hub for collaboration? So, it's not clear whether the older plug-ins will continue to be sold, and/or made available to new users as well as those who have other DAWs.

For me, the larger question is whether a v8 book should ignore anything that's not included in v8, or include pre-v8 material for those who have older versions of Studio One but never bought the tips book. I guess Sweetwater could offer a bundle of the Studio One and a Fender Studio Pro book, but that seems awkward. Furthermore, the older book will never be updated. The free updates are one of the main reasons people bought it. So, people would be buying an end-of-life book with a lot of info on plug-ins that new users won't have, may be discontinued, may not be available for sale, etc. I'm not quite sure how to handle this

 

[Chris R]

They initially had CTC-1 listed as an included native plugin under the Fender Studio Pro product page, it has since been removed. It is still listed as included with a Fender Studio Pro+ subscription: https://www.fender.com/pages/fender-studio-pro-subscription-details

Perpetual license owners can still purchase CTC-1 and Retro Mix Legends from third party retailers.

I'm not entirely sure what's planned with Ampire, it's still listed as an included product under Studio Pro 8 in my Fender account. It's also still referenced in the Studio Pro 8 manual: https://fenderstudiopromanual.fende...rtion.htm?TocPath=Built-In%20Effects%7C_____3

 

[Craig Anderton]

Some things are referenced as being part of Fender Studio Pro+ but I don't know if that means only Fender Studio Pro+. The manual says you can buy the CTC-1 from the Fender website, but searching on CTC-1, Pro Console Shaper, Retro Mix Legends, etc. gave 0 returns. Maybe once things settle down Fender will be more explicit about differences between perpetual and subscription, selling of add-ons on the Fender website vs. 3rd party resellers, whether add-on products are alive or dead, trhe fate of the Fat Channel add-on plug-ins, and so on.

Perhaps some of these were created by third parties, PreSonus licensed them, and they weren't part of the deal with Fender? Just a guess. Something similar happened when Gibson bought Cakewalk.

Probably the safest approach for the book is to have a chapter on applications for "PreSonus" plug-ins. Then readers can figure out whether or not it applies to what they may or may not have.

This thread can go dormant unless someone has a definitive answer to these various questions. If I find out definitive answers, I'll post them here.

 

[dominicperry]

Seems a pity that Fat Channel, (which I spent €150 on an additional pack in the last year), is now "legacy". I wonder if Fender employees will start having a go at Presonus for failing to keep their code up to date with changing VST standards

Dominic

 

[Gerran]

Fat Channel is part of the StudioLive ecosysteem. That, as all other live sound performance products, are said to remain under the PreSonus brand. That makes it only logical to keep the PreSonus branding in the plugins as well. I don't think they will be abandoned, there was a recent product update with significant firmware upgrades..

 

[Craig Anderton]

I heard from Fender anything that was in Studio One Pro+ is included in Fender Studio Pro+. However, I don't yet have info on the status of add-ons available for purchase.

 

[dominicperry]

I got the Fat Channel bundle as a one-off from Vintage King - there aren't many places to buy it - as per discussions at the time, Presonus used removal of certain things from sale as a way of pushing people towards subs. I didn't have S1 Pro+, just a standard perpetual license with paid for add-ons.

Dominic

 

[dominicperry]

Ok, here's another problem - Fat Channel, previously considered a Native Studio One Plug-In, is now demoted to being "part of the Studio Live" product line, which means that it doesn't appear as a native Fender plugin in the channel strip overview. So whilst I get a pretty view of ProEQ, I get a sea of generic knobs for Fat Channel.

Dominic