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Scaler 3
- Thread starter Vocalpoint
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Can you post a screenshot of what it says on the Safety Options dialog box when you restart Studio One after a crash?
Also, did you create the diagnostics report to include in a ticket to PreSonus Support?
That should help determine what's causing the crash.
madFloyd
Active member
Haven't created a ticket because I assumed it was a Scaler 3 issue, not S1, but I'll do that now.
Use these steps...
1. Login to your My.PreSonus account.
2. Click on "Support",
3. Click the + to "Create A Ticket".
lokeyfly
Well-known member
This sounds like how I would use Scaler. Of course everyone will find their happy place, and thats all good.
I'm simply judging Scaler (at a distance) by the way I use a similar app such as Stepic. Of course Stepic is an arpegiator sequencer. I find when there's oodles of cool ways to dive in, pattern, randomize, use automation, and merrily build along, I eventually want to get back to linear-ville. I'm even this way with Studio One's clip launch. At some point while it provides useful patterns, it's then time to fulfill the idea because holding at second, isnt enough (that example probably won't make sense to Europeans)
What I mean is its a tool to complete an idea. Complete, being the song itself.
I picture Scaler is likely brilliant for scores, with many passages, and with version 3, now allowing more instrument track connectivity. Very cool. Some might then utilize its "full" power within a DAW. Or even set up a useful template functionality, like Vocalpoint is finding works well. The beauty of these add-on tools is they work for a host of different applications.
I just read BobF's point and really get that, with my workflow. I guess Scaler 1 or 2 would be enough for me. I find I have a blast just messing with Studio One's chorder, only it's pretty basic. So in the end, I just use my ear.
Maybe I'll trial Scaler3 because it does sound like there's some great chord possibilities within. Thats all I'd even ask of it.
Scaler 3 working fine in S1 for me and I use it quite a bit.
It's still a bit rough around the edges and there are some odd design decisions but they do continuously improve it.
I don't really use the arranger page because it's much easier to do that stuff in S1. Where Scaler 3 really excels is in making sense of my random keyboard noodlings. I can feed it a melody and it will offer up some scales that match (and thus some chords) or I can feed it an interesting chord sequence I have come up with on the keyboard and it will do the same. Once you have a scale you can drag a load of related chords, and extended versions of them, into the bottom section (section C) then bind them to the white notes on the keyboard. So you can very quickly go from a bit of noodling on the keyboard to a bunch of one finger chords that let you experiment further.
After that I tend to just drag the MIDI into S1 and archive the Scaler track but you can continue in Scaler if you prefer. They are going to add "scenes" soon which I think will be a bit like the S1 arranger track so you can make a whole song in Scaler (intro, verse, chorus etc). Maybe that will tempt me to stay in Scaler 3 for longer.
It's still a bit rough around the edges and there are some odd design decisions but they do continuously improve it.
I don't really use the arranger page because it's much easier to do that stuff in S1. Where Scaler 3 really excels is in making sense of my random keyboard noodlings. I can feed it a melody and it will offer up some scales that match (and thus some chords) or I can feed it an interesting chord sequence I have come up with on the keyboard and it will do the same. Once you have a scale you can drag a load of related chords, and extended versions of them, into the bottom section (section C) then bind them to the white notes on the keyboard. So you can very quickly go from a bit of noodling on the keyboard to a bunch of one finger chords that let you experiment further.
After that I tend to just drag the MIDI into S1 and archive the Scaler track but you can continue in Scaler if you prefer. They are going to add "scenes" soon which I think will be a bit like the S1 arranger track so you can make a whole song in Scaler (intro, verse, chorus etc). Maybe that will tempt me to stay in Scaler 3 for longer.
madFloyd
Active member
Done. Thanks, Trucky.
lokeyfly
Well-known member
Thanks for that. Makes sense, and how I'd approach Scaler 3.
Noodles that turn into useful or uncharted landscapes is really what its all about. Sounds like Scaler is developing, whenever anyone wants to step off its carousel. Thanks for your take on it, Davey.
DR 5 Notes
New member
Its a brilliant tool and the update to three brings some powerful tools Highly recommended
Crossinger
Active member
Hi, thanks for stopping by and your opinion on Scaler 3, I really appreciate it! However, over the past few months my spare time interests have drifted somewhat away from making music, so all purchases for that hobby are currently on hold. But when I get back into it, I'll definitely take another look.
lokeyfly
Well-known member
I get that impression looking at Scaler 3. Not that that is a deciding factor to go by, but just a gut feel. Some users here seam to make Scaler 3 work for them.
Hey bummer. I hope you didnt have to pay for Scaler to find that out.
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Vocalpoint
Well-known member
And I found Scaler 2 to be a dogs breakfast of a UI - where others got on with it just fine.
Scaler 3 is doing just fine over here. Funny how we all see things differently...
VP
Scaler 3 is doing just fine over here. Funny how we all see things differently...
VP
lokeyfly
Well-known member
Absolutely. I use Stepic, and sometimes I think, it must be that I like Stepic's UI due to a seriously misspent youth.
But somehow, in all its seemingly limited layout, its totally "whack!".
And musical.
A good thing!
I think Scaler3 could help me with jazz phrasing, so I haven't altogether thrown it out of bed, yet.
Seems a little pricey at $99 (plugin boutique)
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ananmusatili
New member
Me too. Scaler 2 was much faster to use than the nightmare UI that 3 has. They really took a misstep by trying to become some sort of a light DAW instead of going deeper and making it easier to experiment the progressions, chord types, inversions etc. All of that actually has become even more difficult.
What I'd want is to have a much more immediate way to change and test out inversions, additions etc. Currently, it's really not slick for that.