Not a PC gamer, so I figure 8G for the video card is enough
Looks similar in specs to the laptop @lokeyfly mentioned ...
Looks similar in specs to the laptop @lokeyfly mentioned ...
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The only possible niggle—depending on whether you bought an 8G video card for video editing or not, I would guess getting one that powerful means you are interested in some video editing, though I'm not psychic enough to know for sure—is that the 650-watt power supply might choke out if you're doing heavy editing. I would have bumped that up to at least 850-watt...but since it's already on the way, you'll get to find out. If you run into trouble (not saying you definitely will, just that you might), the power supply is the likely culprit.
lokeyfly
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Cool, and congrats, Bob! Looks like a winner! The p.s. might only come into play if you have a lot of connectivity where you're plugging a number of controllers, drives, and other such hardware in and out. Even then, if you keep a lean production environment (which it sounds like you do), you'll have years of reliable service. So with most applications, a respectable gaming setup will get er' done. Nice move with the 2TB M.2 NVMe Gen4 drive as well.
Enjoy!!!!!
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The 265 CPU doesn't come with onboard video, I take it? If you're not playing games or editing video, curious why you need a card at all.
OP
OP
Future proofing. My current PC is 9 years old and Win10 expiring is the reason for replacing it. I expect this one to get the same kind of mileage. In addition to FSP I also use digital painting software with a pen display. Individual component specs weren't a consideration bc it is prebuilt model.
I don't care about statements without measurements/proof. I prefer this one for a RTX 5070 in a worst case gaming setup. Quote from the very bottom of the page:
"A 650 watt power supply unit not only offers sufficient headroom, but also absorbs short-term load peaks, as required by the ATX 3.1 standard with up to 200% of the nominal load for one millisecond. This means that peaks of up to 1300 watts can be handled without stability problems."
So your concept of "proof" that a 650-watt power supply could never choke out under heavy video editing load comes from a gaming setup.
What an assinine comment.
First off, Bob already has his system, which should get the job done as intended for the next decade, and he has no plans to edit video on it. Second, I didn't say a 650-watt supply was definitely a huge mistake, I said it was a small niggle that could possibly be a problem. Third, exactly how was my comment offensive to you? Do you own a power supply company that maxes out at 650-watt units?
Let's just have a look at arguably probably the top site for video editors, Puget Systems, where we find 850-watts is the recommended starting point reaching up to 2800 watts:
www.pugetsystems.com
Perhaps in the future you might save your powder and venom for actual issues and do some actual research before attacking fellow forum members out of the blue.
What an assinine comment.
First off, Bob already has his system, which should get the job done as intended for the next decade, and he has no plans to edit video on it. Second, I didn't say a 650-watt supply was definitely a huge mistake, I said it was a small niggle that could possibly be a problem. Third, exactly how was my comment offensive to you? Do you own a power supply company that maxes out at 650-watt units?
Let's just have a look at arguably probably the top site for video editors, Puget Systems, where we find 850-watts is the recommended starting point reaching up to 2800 watts:
Blog Posts
Archive of Puget Systems blog posts covering a wide range of computer hardware, technology, and industry topics
www.pugetsystems.com
Perhaps in the future you might save your powder and venom for actual issues and do some actual research before attacking fellow forum members out of the blue.
OP
OP
There is always the option to upgrade the PSU in the future. This is one of the reasons I opted for a desktop over laptop. I will definitely be adding one SATA HDD internally, but additional storage might be via USB drive bay, which wouldn't be tapping the PC power.
Anyway, thanx for the comments all-around.
Anyway, thanx for the comments all-around.
TimC340
Active member
PSUs are one of the few components that hasn't been affected by the rise of the AI datacentres, so replacing it is both fairly cheap and easy if you ever feel the need, but I'd expect 650W to be adequate for your intended use. I am a bit of a gamer, and my studio rig runs a 16Gb 9070XT GPU. I run that on an 850W PSU, and that's absolutely fine. My home rig has a 16Gb 7800XT GPU (yes, I'm all AMD) and I think that's on a 750 or 800W PSU. Also perfectly adequate.
lokeyfly
Well-known member
Makes sense. I love my laptops, because of the mobility is just incredible. But the idea of upgrading is so much more accessible with a desktop. Good you weighed in on that.
OP
OP
I have a really basic laptop for basic use when traveling. I toyed with the idea of getting a super laptop, but then considered how little we've been traveling the last 2 or 3 years and decided against it. I'm sure next time I do travel I'll be cursing the '19 cheapo I take with meMakes sense. I love my laptops, because of the mobility is just incredible. But the idea of upgrading is so much more accessible with a desktop. Good you weighed in on that.
lokeyfly
Well-known member
Yeah, we all have those different needs.
My friend bought a Mac Studio, with a Studiolive SE Mk3. He spends about 2 to 3 hours every few days if that. He's having difficulty retaining what he's doing. No real shortcuts, or getting into the tracking aspects. I told him to look into a laptop. This way he doesnt have to drive to the studio to get re acquainted each time. He has the desire, but the time clocking in, is just not enough.
Today's laptops, of at least a respectable CPU, screen size, ram, and SSD level, and such can replace many dedicated desktop units. Thats not to say go get one. What it can do, is have the Studio meet you half way. That might be ones living room, yard, in bed, when an idea crops up, etc. Not necessarily travel with. But enough about this. Let us know when your new machine comes in. Even fire in a picture in that post about people's setups.
You must be super excited. Cool!
My friend bought a Mac Studio, with a Studiolive SE Mk3. He spends about 2 to 3 hours every few days if that. He's having difficulty retaining what he's doing. No real shortcuts, or getting into the tracking aspects. I told him to look into a laptop. This way he doesnt have to drive to the studio to get re acquainted each time. He has the desire, but the time clocking in, is just not enough.
Today's laptops, of at least a respectable CPU, screen size, ram, and SSD level, and such can replace many dedicated desktop units. Thats not to say go get one. What it can do, is have the Studio meet you half way. That might be ones living room, yard, in bed, when an idea crops up, etc. Not necessarily travel with. But enough about this. Let us know when your new machine comes in. Even fire in a picture in that post about people's setups.
You must be super excited. Cool!
dominicperry
Member
265 does come with perfectly acceptable integrated graphics. Will be fine for DAW work on a single screen.
It will support more than one screen too.
The 265K is probably a better processor though.
Intel® Core™ Ultra 7 Processor 265 (30M Cache, up to 5.30 GHz) - Product Specifications | Intel
Intel® Core™ Ultra 7 Processor 265 (30M Cache, up to 5.30 GHz) quick reference with specifications, features, and technologies.
www.intel.com
Well in that case, I'd say someone who could have run his specs past the peanut gallery before, not after, he made the purchase, overpaid for their rig. When 2036 rolls around, he may want to ask beforehand. Also good point on the 265k. On the bright side, the unnecessary video card expense can be pro-rated over 10 years, so $30/yr is just one designer pizza he skips265 does come with perfectly acceptable integrated graphics. Will be fine for DAW work on a single screen.
It will support more than one screen too.
The 265K is probably a better processor though.
Intel® Core™ Ultra 7 Processor 265 (30M Cache, up to 5.30 GHz) - Product Specifications | Intel
Intel® Core™ Ultra 7 Processor 265 (30M Cache, up to 5.30 GHz) quick reference with specifications, features, and technologies.
dominicperry
Member
I wasn’t paying sufficient attention to the chronology of the thread but it’s probable that some useful gaming can be added to the daily use. Games are great with pizza.
I may have double-counted that $30.
I may have double-counted that $30.