How good is the Notation Editor of Fender Studio Pro 8 ?

[Muziksculp]

Hi,

I'm curious to know how good is the Notation Editor available in Fender Studio Pro 8 ?

Since I have no plans to use Notion, any one using the FSPro 8 Notation Editor for Orchestral composition ?

Thanks,
Muziksculp

 

[Lukas]

Hey Muziksculp,

I'm curious to know how good is the Notation Editor available in Fender Studio Pro 8 ?

this is a bit difficult to answer without knowing what "good" means to you, since it really depends on what you’re looking for and what matters most in your workflow. There are some limitations, especially when it comes to non-quantized music.

Since you already have FSP 8, have you tried the notation editor yet? What are your impressions so far?

 

[Muziksculp]

Hey Muziksculp,


this is a bit difficult to answer without knowing what "good" means to you, since it really depends on what you’re looking for and what matters most in your workflow. There are some limitations, especially when it comes to non-quantized music.

Since you already have FSP 8, have you tried the notation editor yet? What are your impressions so far?

Hi Lukas,

No, I haven't installed FSPro 8 yet, that's why I was asking about this detail. (re-designing my studio).

With regards to Un-Quantized midi notes, I think most notation editors have a hard time interpreting it. So, I'm expecting the same to be true with FSP 8 's Notation Editor.

I'm also curious if future updates will enhance the Notation Editor, with useful features.

I tend to use a Score Editor when I need to view analyze a tracks phrasing looking at musical note values. or other details that are visually easier to interpret compared to looking at the notes in the key-editor, But don't use it regularly. So, it's nice to have it integrated into FSP 8 .

I'm also aware that Notion 6 is no longer in development, but that doesn't matter to me, since I never used it, plus I would rather have notation editor integrated in the DAW.

Thanks,
Muziksculp

 

[dominicperry]

I've used the Score View in Studio One for many years - I use it to interpret midi from improvisations, and make a quantised score from it, so I can remind myself of what I did.

With FSP, you can now extract note data from audio files, meaning it's not even compulsory to record the midi data. But I don't need anything precise, just enough to show the chords, bass line, remind me of the melody and general feel.
I did a comparison a while back of S1, Pro Tools, Logic, Reaper and Muse Score interpreting a quantised midi file, and my personal opinion was that S1 and Logic did the best job, but Logic pasted hundreds of Pedal markings over every bar for some unknown reason. Pro Tools was worse but ok, Muse Score was ok if I quantised the Midi in S1 or Logic and just used it to draw the score, and Reaper was a total, unusable disaster.

If I was producing a proper score for consumption by a classical musician, then I'd use Dorico or something similar. But for my own purposes, S1/FSP does a pretty good job. I don't edit the notes before I print them out, so I'm relying on quantisation and good interpretation of the midi data to get me a usable score.

Dominic

 

[Jeff]

Like Dominic say, Dorico if your going to be send the score to be played, for personal use good enough is the score page says Yoda.

 

[Muziksculp]

Hi @Jeff , and @dominicperry ,

Thank You both for your helpful feedback. I haven't used FSP-8 yet, but wanted to check on this detail, and get feedback from users. So it is good to know that FSP-8 can do a good job in notating notes, I'm guessing provided they are quantized so it can translate them properly to the score staff. This is an important feature if one needs to see what is going on in the music by visualizing the notated score. it's just more elegantly organized to see the notes.

Dorico is the Pro-Standard notation these days, and it has some interesting features that kind of put it in DAW-Land a bit, since you can input notes using a midi keyboard, and view the notes in a key-editor , and at the same time in notation format on the same page. and do all sorts of edits, it uses expression-maps for articulation selection, and can play VST3 Sample libraries, mixer, effects, ..etc. Not as flexible as a DAW, but still quite capable.

I might add Dorico 6 in the near future. I can also export the Dorico file to import it in FSP1. and vice-versa, not sure how good this works, but it is possible to do it. There is also MuseScore which is also very popular now, and keeps getting better with each update, plus.. it's Free.

Cheers,
Muziksculp

 

[freddiphin]

My two cents: I agree with all of the above. Absolutely Dorico or Sibelius for "real world" music dot-and-line production to be printed out and given to musicians. But for convenient reading of DAW MIDI notes in a familiar notation form, the note editor in FSP is acceptable. And I've found the new Fender Notion to be an improvement, actually, on PreSonus' Notion 6 (deprecated). And it's free as well and works very fluidly in conjunction with Studio Pro. Otherwise, exporting/importing Music XML with MuseScore and Studio Pro is functional as well. But again, if it's just for creator convenience and not necessary for readable music for other human musicians, the note editor is OK.

 

[ptheisen]

"I might add Dorico 6 in the near future."

If you do, the Elements version may very well have all the features you need, and it is only $100. In my opinion, Steinberg is very generous with Dorico Elements, excluding only the details needed by people that professionally publish very complex musical scores.

 

[TimC340]

"I might add Dorico 6 in the near future."

If you do, the Elements version may very well have all the features you need, and it is only $100. In my opinion, Steinberg is very generous with Dorico Elements, excluding only the details needed by people that professionally publish very complex musical scores.

Agreed. I have Dorico 6 Elements, and it's everything I need and more.

 

[Muziksculp]

So, If the music is produced in FSP-8, and I would like to have it notated for the purpose of having it played by real players, I would export the FSP-1 project as XML file to Dorico ?

The other way around, would be producing the music in Dorico, and then exporting it to FSP-8 as MIDI file ? or is it better as XML ? just not very clear on this detail.

Thanks.

 

[Muziksculp]

OH.. Anyone here using Musescore Studio instead of Dorico ?