Solved Ghost midi note appears when audio plays

[Lipica]

Well well well… do you like ghost stories, fellow studiooners ?
Listen to this, it’s a duet, recorded guitar (audio file) and Presence (some customized Rhodes), with guitar muted one time out of two.
Give special attention to the Rhodes. You will notice a note appears near the end when the guitar is turned on. Yeah I’m not joking. That or my ears are tricking me. It’s a bass note, an E3, instead of E3-F3 when guitar is muted you can hear E3-E3-F3 when it is not :
https://www.lipica.fr/test/
All other tracks are muted. It’s driving me nuts and it’s the last little thing preventing me to finish this darn song, so any help would be very much appreciated.
Some screeeamshots :

 

[lokeyfly]

Lipica wrote: "All other tracks are muted. It’s driving me nuts and it’s the last little thing preventing me to finish this darn song, so any help would be very much appreciated."


Hi Lipika, I didnt hear your example (I'm working outside today in the yard). However your description is nicely worded.

What I would start with is there's never any reason to not locate a hidden sound amongst a channel then locate where the issue is.

My process for locating some hidden or rogue sound is:
1. Minimize the channel width by using the narrow selection ( > < ). It allows the metering to all reside on top and acts like a meter bridge.

2. Create a short loop around the area in question and turn the loop region on (blue bar). This will minimize pressing start>stop selections over and over again.

3. Locate the channels that you do hear the area in question. Mute all the other channels. This is better than using solo, as you will hear the routing of these channels with effects processed be it pre or post fader.
Note: Locate these channels by the meter activity. Eventually you will whittle away all of the other channels that are not in question using the channel mute button.

4. Now, one by one, mute the few channels you feel only carry the guitar sound that has some relation to that . In your case, the ones you show and the bass. If you dont hear that difference yet, its likely in one of the orher channels you first muted. Deselect mute, one by one listening for the added note to play. This is why the short loop helps.

A few checks and balances. Remember, per an earlier discussion, channels and tracks are not the same. Channels can have several tracks to them. If you suddenly hear the sound you're looking for, you then need to look in your track editor and determine if its on a particular instrument track.

This general process will weed out the issue of a non located, or potentially ghosted notes. You just have to follow this process of elimination, by knowing what you muted, what remains, and what channel may have some other tracks assigned. Don't forget to mute and isolate effects one by one as well. They surely can be a source for such issues. There, you can select what tracks are feeding them by clicking on the black bar with the vertical notches IIIIII

Sorry for the dodgy wording, couldn't see my screen so well outside. Fixed that now.

 

[lokeyfly]

I got to hear your example. I believe you can locate the ghost notes you describe by the details I laid out for you. Thanks to your good description you provided. Let us know how it goes.

 

[Lipica]

That’s it. I tried different pannings/routings, and get to know where this parasite note came from. That’s all thanks to you @lokeyfley. Thank you very much !

 

[lokeyfly]

That’s it. I tried different pannings/routings, and get to know where this parasite note came from. That’s all thanks to you @lokeyfley. Thank you very much !

It happens to us all on occasion, my brother.
Enjoy, and finish that damn song!