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FSP8 - total crash - can anyone repro please

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dominicperry

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I can recreate a crash where FSP8.0.2 disappears completely, can anyone reproduce please - you will need Fat Channel with the Tube comp.

  1. Newly opened FSP 8.0.2 (I'm on MacOS 15.7.4 on MBP M1 Max)
  2. New blank session - 32 bit at 96KHz
  3. New mono audio track
  4. Open the Channel Overview (bottom right, icon with fader and thick and thin line)
  5. Add an insert - Fat Channel
  6. Open Fat Channel fully (using any appropriate button)
  7. Expand Fat Channel to see the full three windows (to show Gate, Comp and EQ).
  8. Turn on the Comp and choose the Tube variant
  9. Grab the Compressor threshold knob in the Channel Overview window, to turn it down.
  10. Everything disappears!
It doesn't happen with the default comp, but it does happen with the Tube comp and at least one other.

Dominic
 
Just followed your steps exactly, (Nice job on defining the steps needed to reproduce) though I'm on Windows 11. Anyway, no immediate crash here - but I closed and exited and saw that I did get a Crash/problem report notification on my next restart of Studio Pro. I started normally, with no problems after that. 👍
 
AAV said:
Just followed your steps exactly, (Nice job on defining the steps needed to reproduce) though I'm on Windows 11. Anyway, no immediate crash here - but I closed and exited and saw that I did get a Crash/problem report notification on my next restart of Studio Pro. I started normally, with no problems after that. 👍
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Thanks very much for trying. I appreciate the time taken.

Dominic
 
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I wonder if the fact that Fat Channel is still a "Presonus" plug, it might still need some Fender "tweaks" - like the rebranding issue for some 3rd party plugins after the 8.0 release? It just crashed without the "poof" in Windows 11....
 
AAV said:
I wonder if the fact that Fat Channel is still a "Presonus" plug, it might still need some Fender "tweaks" - like the rebranding issue for some 3rd party plugins after the 8.0 release? It just crashed without the "poof" in Windows 11....
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My money is on "96Khz"....

Just tried this here at 44.1k. Could not reproduce - no crash regardless of what values I "spun" with the Comp Threshold Button

But what is very odd is - when adding Fat Channel to the Overview initially - you get this

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BUT then when you change the Comp from Standard to Tube - Tube only has 3 controls.

But on the Channel Overview panel - these 6 knobs not only remain active - including "Compressor Threshold" - but several of them appear to have no bearing on the Tube UI at all?

There is no "Compressor Threshold" on the Tube Comp UI (or a Ratio or Attack either) :

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AND - there is Compressor Gain on Tube UI but it's value of "40.00" is not reflected on the matching control on Channel Overview (Compressor Gain is set to 0.00db)

Am I totally misunderstanding how this works but or shouldn't these "overview" panel controls - change (activate/deactivate) based what Comp is selected?

Another oddity - when I completed the steps as listed and there was no crash - I saved the project, closed it and came back in.

But when I did - now - knobs like Compressor Threshold, Compressor Ratio etc - now were zeroed out and could not be "turned" either:

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Almost as if the project "save" - suddenly "injected" a bit of logic into the Channel Overview as if to say "Not sure how you were able to spin those non-existent controls when you added Tube Comp before - but I am going to make sure you can't turn them now. I will however let you turn Compressor Gain (which IS part of the Tube Comp UI)"

Summary - something is really backwards here - if this "overview" is designed to allow the user to interface with actual "usable" knobs/controls based on what "components" are part of the Fat Channel rack at any given moment.

The fact that the OP could add Tube Comp and then actually spin that Compressor Threshold button when it appears to control nothing that I can see - and have SP8 crash - kinda makes complete sense to me...

VP
 
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dominicperry said:
I can recreate a crash where FSP8.0.2 disappears completely, can anyone reproduce please - you will need Fat Channel with the Tube comp.

  1. Newly opened FSP 8.0.2 (I'm on MacOS 15.7.4 on MBP M1 Max)
  2. New blank session - 32 bit at 96KHz
  3. New mono audio track
  4. Open the Channel Overview (bottom right, icon with fader and thick and thin line)
  5. Add an insert - Fat Channel
  6. Open Fat Channel fully (using any appropriate button)
  7. Expand Fat Channel to see the full three windows (to show Gate, Comp and EQ).
  8. Turn on the Comp and choose the Tube variant
  9. Grab the Compressor threshold knob in the Channel Overview window, to turn it down.
  10. Everything disappears!
It doesn't happen with the default comp, but it does happen with the Tube comp and at least one other.

Dominic
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Confirmed, can reproduce by following the steps provided! Hard crash when grabbing and turning the threshold knob in channel overview.
Happens both with 96khz, 32bit and 44.1 kHz, 24bit
 
I only tried 96k/32 bit per the OP's method. So you observe it's not just a 96 khz issue, but it would seem to point to an issue with the channel overview (or an incompatibility between it and Fat channel, at least for some FC modules)
 
Excellent teamwork guys!!
 
Thanks to everyone for trying this out.
There's clearly enough support for a problem which isn't confined to just my setup that I will log the bug with Fender.
Thanks again.
Dominic
 
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