FSP8 freezing when left on overnight/extended periods

[BobF]

Hey. It's not FSP8 and it's not Win11. I've encountered the need to reboot after leaving a song open without doing anything for long periods of times since Win7 and S1 V2. Not always, but sometimes here and there. It also seems to have something to do with leaving a fuller production open than a lean one. Sure, there's something to be said for leaving a production always open in case inspiration strikes, only in the SSD era with bootup times thirty seconds or less is restarting or rebooting really still a deterrent?

Def light productions here I don't shut my machines down, but I do save FSP sessions frequently and sometimes exit FSP at the end of the day. Same with drawing/painting apps. I visit my workstation multiple times a day rather than once a day for however long - the freedom of retirement I can leave a session open for days at a time without thinking about it. No problems with crashes/freezes ever. I just don't think about it until one of these topics comes up.

My current machine boots from SSD, but takes considerably longer than 30 secs to be ready to go from power off. Reboot is even long enough to get bored. It might not be true these days, but I came up in the computing era where power cycles were considered life shortening. Old dogs and their tricks. I started working on computing machines when they were 7' tall and weighed 1000# fully loaded with 16K of actual core memory. My first PCs were before the PC.

Would it hurt me to exit all apps and power down each evening? Probably not, but my first espresso would be long gone before the machine was ready for another day.

BTW, I have extensive backups that run nightly at 1:00am and 3:00am. So there is that too

 

[MisterE]

Def light productions here I don't shut my machines down, but I do save FSP sessions frequently and sometimes exit FSP at the end of the day. Same with drawing/painting apps. I visit my workstation multiple times a day rather than once a day for however long - the freedom of retirement I can leave a session open for days at a time without thinking about it. No problems with crashes/freezes ever. I just don't think about it until one of these topics comes up.

My current machine boots from SSD, but takes considerably longer than 30 secs to be ready to go from power off. Reboot is even long enough to get bored. It might not be true these days, but I came up in the computing era where power cycles were considered life shortening. Old dogs and their tricks. I started working on computing machines when they were 7' tall and weighed 1000# fully loaded with 16K of actual core memory. My first PCs were before the PC.

Would it hurt me to exit all apps and power down each evening? Probably not, but my first espresso would be long gone before the machine was ready for another day.

BTW, I have extensive backups that run nightly at 1:00am and 3:00am. So there is that too

All right, so you grew up with a Cray One I believe you're describing the longer than thirty seconds startup time for your long in the tooth, i7-6700, not your spanking new 265. Correct?

Speaking of old dogs and PC history, I hold the honor of paying $450 for 1 meg (not a typo!) Ram for a Mac SE in 1990 or so. That should get me the Guinness Book of World Records for overpaying for a single PC component.

 

[BobF]

All right, so you grew up with a Cray One I believe you're describing the longer than thirty seconds startup time for your long in the tooth, i7-6700, not your spanking new 265. Correct?

Speaking of old dogs and PC history, I hold the honor of paying $450 for 1 meg (not a typo!) Ram for a Mac SE in 1990 or so. That should get me the Guinness Book of World Records for overpaying for a single PC component.

Yes, the 265 isn't here yet.

 

[MisterE]

Well then those days are over. Onwards and upwards!

 

[Gerran]

Yes, the 265 isn't here yet.

A Pentuim 256 of yore would set your entire coffee pot to work during boot up I stead of just one espresso

 

[lokeyfly]

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My current machine boots from SSD, but takes considerably longer than 30 secs to be ready to go from power off. Reboot is even long enough to get bored.

Hmmm, "get bored". That over thirty seconds. It's a good thing you weren't flying down south with me, this last week with three-plus hour waits (for most).

On a side note
I also had a Mac 128, and when converting it to a 512 (with 2 sided drive), it ran me exactly $450, and for the 1 meg upgrade another $450. It was only a few more years of using a Mac, that I started always building my own PC's and said "enough" to Apple's choke hold. That same Apple company with the Superbowl add of an Olympic runner hurling an anvil at the IBM (big blue) screen claiming THEY were the control freaks. OH, how the tables changed.

In any event, its taken more than thirty seconds to explore this post you made, and still would reap the benefit of good advice of turning your PC off when not in use. Retirement, or not. As to extensive backups, you needn't worry as much as if your PC was getting a periodic good night's rest. You know, like you do and got you to retirement.

Relevent post, but I think you got your answer, my friend. Sleep on it.

 

[Vocalpoint]

Just to add, turn on power saving! Except CPU/throttling.

Have always turned off every possible power saver for over a decade now - never an issue.

Running a DAW (that is plugged into hard power) is most definitely not where you want "power savings".

You want those on that laptop you are carrying to classes or when there is no power source nearby.

I need my DAW running at full capability (using a highly customized power plan) with no impediments possible - at all times.

VP

 

[BobF]

Hmmm, "get bored". That over thirty seconds. It's a good thing you weren't flying down south with me, this last week with three-plus hour waits (for most).

On a side note
I also had a Mac 128, and when converting it to a 512 (with 2 sided drive), it ran me exactly $450, and for the 1 meg upgrade another $450. It was only a few more years of using a Mac, that I started always building my own PC's and said "enough" to Apple's choke hold. That same Apple company with the Superbowl add of an Olympic runner hurling an anvil at the IBM (big blue) screen claiming THEY were the control freaks. OH, how the tables changed.

In any event, its taken more than thirty seconds to explore this post you made, and still would reap the benefit of good advice of turning your PC off when not in use. Retirement, or not. As to extensive backups, you needn't worry as much as if your PC was getting a periodic good night's rest. You know, like you do and got you to retirement.

Relevent post, but I think you got your answer, my friend. Sleep on it.

In '78 I paid $1100 for a Tandy Model I w/editasm and a cassette voice recorder for mass storage. Times have changed!!

 

[lokeyfly]

Yep. Ive been the tape storage, and music with "bleep-bloop-beep". Lol.
My Atari 800 (79') was killer! The rest is history. Then, I think about how much money the whole SCSI path sucked my wallet dry!

Fun times, though. 🖥

 

[Number6]

Have always turned off every possible power saver for over a decade now - never an issue.

Running a DAW (that is plugged into hard power) is most definitely not where you want "power savings".

You want those on that laptop you are carrying to classes or when there is no power source nearby.

I need my DAW running at full capability (using a highly customized power plan) with no impediments possible - at all times.

VP

As I said l, a dirty word.

I'll just post my full quote below as a response.

Just to add, turn on power saving! Except CPU/throttling.

Power saving is a dirty word in audio, but you can configure devices to ignore power saving features on an individual basis (as stated earlier), some storage and USB devices aren't going to disconnect or screw up latency.

Can require some time with experimentation however..Windows 11 is way better at it than previous versions in my experience.

I'll just add I had power savings turned completely off for over a decade or two.

I started turning on power saving features for some devices (took a while to work out which) a year after Windows 11 came out and I adopted it. No issues at all. You do need to know what you are doing however.

Where I live electricity is expensive and I don't wish to consume the resources of the planet when I don't have to. I use a desktop and a laptop. Everything is optimized, some people like me who have been around since the DOS days are obsessed about it. I don't see EMM386.SYS anywhere however

 

[Davey]

My money is on the USB ports sleeping or powering down or snoozing or something. Over the years I've had various similar problems where something on USB "half disconnects" and then does not reconnect properly. Of course, it shouldn't cause a crash but...

Have a look through all the USB settings and next time it does crash try physically disconnecting any USB stuff and reconnecting it.