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Fender Studio Basic plugins Request.

Bebop

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What are the chances that Fender Studio/Presonus team could create and add basic stock plugins for the DAW.
And I mean basic it does one thing and only one thing especially for producers who are neuro diverse with ADHD who can get distracted by a plugin that does more than one thing.

List of basic plugins:

Volume
Gain
Lowcut
HighCut
Pan
Simple Filter
Sample delay.

Now I know some will say there are already studio one plugins that do this,but really they do more than one thing.
Where as I am specifically looking at one dial plugins.

What's peoples thoughts on this?
 
This is my opinion and it may seem harsh, but: no. Absolutely not. Essentially, you want a dumbed-down version of the program to cater for your specific needs at the cost of significant development work on the part of the company. I don't think they have the resources to do that and, in any case, I don't think it's appropriate for a professional DAW to try and be all things to all people. There are programs that do simplify the recording process and make each function more bare-bones, and really I think that's where you need to be looking. There are also several free plugin modules from people like Brainworx that are somewhat simpler than the stock plugins in Studio Pro.

DAWs that make the process simpler include Garage Band, Music Maker, and - if you can find it - Music Creator 7 from Cakewalk. Garage Band is the best - and it's free - but it obviously needs you to be on Mac.
 
A dumbed down bersion of Fender Studio!??

If you read my post carefully and pay attention by reading the words.
I have suggested that like many other DAWs it would be nice to have the basic tools that every other DAW has.

I accept your suggestion that third party basic apps are available.
 
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Guys ... please review and edit your posts above into something respectful. This isn't a mosh pit

I'll review the results later
 
What's peoples thoughts on this?

Respectfully - I am genuinely interested - but I need you to describe for me - exactly - what is your idea of a "volume" plugin? Or a "pan" plugin?

Because right now (and since Studio One v1 in 2009) - these two functions are (and always have been) standard operating procedure within the mixer.

Are you saying that having these functions - right there - in the mixer - (in a brand new session with no "other" plugins present whatsoever) does not work for you and your solution is add more "basic" plugins (if they existed) to the equation?

If this is what you are saying - you can see how this lands as "odd" (to me) for someone who is neuro diverse with ADHD - and has a desire to be less distracted.

Adding "more" of anything - be it simple or complex - logically will make this more distracting by design.

Curious as to what these suggestions really mean.

VP
 
Oh ok,I can do acerbic condescending and patronising wording too.
Lets go.......or maybe not because afterall we are all adults and mature rational people on this forum.

A dumbed down bersion of Fender Studio!??

If you read my post carefully and pay attention by reading the words.
I have suggested that like many other DAWs it would be nice to have the basic tools that every other DAW has.
With all respect, and from the same place TimC340 is coming from (whom I happen to have seen always be completely respectful), is completely correct in using the term "dumb down". Now you may not like that, or feel offended and that is your perogative. However, as you'll find when using this and other fine DAW's is that such things can be truly redundant. Even to the point of getting in the way. There are to some degree and might be helpful to you to set levels at different intervals within certain plugins so that they react a certain way. You can do this with existing plugins, or metering to both set a level, and get a reading. What can happen on the flip side can occasionally be problematic. Think of how hardware components rely on matched impedance to get the best results [bandwidth] or less distortion.
As to volume, pan, and any pre-existing audio or DSP control, the nature of really any DAW is to provide a consistent flow and control.
For example, selecting a gain, or a fader. While both vary amplitude, both have a seriously different impact over altering volume. Selecting pre and post fade routing where levels can also alter have a very different result. These and too many other reasons are why DAW's cary a certain symmetry to layout and functionality.
Tim also pointed to options such as third party plugins. So theres already several options that meet various needs and may meet yours. They're quite basic and visible to those who need them.

It would seem in my opinion that you have not read my post properly or taken yourself seriously enough to undertake an answer other than the usual social media style provocation.
I'd probably suggest the table turned in your response to what was a legitimate response.
Sorry, if my position feels any different, but I think your response could be best served by asking further to bolster your points made. Not lash out because of how you felt was a term you simply didnt like. Feelings come in all shapes and sizes and I believe you took it wrong here.
It is a forum and we have decorum here,if you are not used to it then the hellscape horror of twitter awaits you.
As a music person I am only interested in contributing something positive to the world
Can you say the same for yourself?
There you go again. You're escalating something that is not necessary. So why not tone it down. Moving forward...
But ...wait....... an adult response arrives........
I am adult enough to accept your suggestion that third party basic apps are available.
Awesome. If we find any that assist you, we will. BTW, Studio One/Pro have some very complimentary plugin tools for automating or setting pan, volume, and almost virtually any control so ask any particular question that helps your needs. They can be inserted to be very visual as well! One dial plugins? No. But they're likely some out there.
 
A dumbed down bersion of Fender Studio!??

If you read my post carefully and pay attention by reading the words.
I have suggested that like many other DAWs it would be nice to have the basic tools that every other DAW has.

I accept your suggestion that third party basic apps are available.
Edited ...
 
I have apologised for the tone but not what I believe.I shall post no further.I shall not respond.
Happy music making and have a great day.
 
I have apologised for the tone but not what I believe.I shall post no further.I shall not respond.
Happy music making and have a great day.

You too!

VP
 
Agreed,I am sorry for my part.
Trying to delete the thread.
I very much apologise if my post came across as rude or condescending; that wasn't my intention at all. You asked for people's thoughts and I gave mine - and prefaced it with 'This is my opinion and it may seem harsh'.

I'm not at all unsympathetic to the needs of those who are neurodivergent, but I don't believe those needs are addressed by making professional products less complex. If your needs are for more simple, straightforward modules within the DAW, there are probably more effective and productive ways of achieving that than by simplifying the stock plugins - which already suit many users, and might actually be regarded as not complex enough by some! Ad of course, as I suggested, there are free plugins that may address some of your concerns.

My suggestion of more simple DAWs wasn't a cheap shot; Studio Pro is an extremely complex program and a few more simple plugins won't really address that. Programs like Garage Band are very capable but are deliberately designed to be approachable and easy to use, and have a relatively simple UI that tries to ensure that aim is met. Notwithstanding that, Garage Band is capable of some extremely impressive results.

I very much hope you'll take my apology in the spirit in which it's given. I have no wish to offend anyone, but I will resist any moves to make FSP8 a less capable program!
 
Hmm, I think the request was for a few additional simple stock plugins, not taking anything away from SP as it is today. So you could have your ProEQ and also a one band EQ: Under the hood the exact same plugin but with a simplified GUI, for who gets overwhelmed by the ProEQ GUI. Accessibility as Apple calls it. Could be nice to introduce beginners to sound plugins too. So, low-hanging fruit?
 
Hmm, I think the request was for a few additional simple stock plugins, not taking anything away from SP as it is today. So you could have your ProEQ and also a one band EQ: Under the hood the exact same plugin but with a simplified GUI, for who gets overwhelmed by the ProEQ GUI. Accessibility as Apple calls it. Could be nice to introduce beginners to sound plugins too. So, low-hanging fruit?

But isn't that what the free Fender Studio is for?
 
But isn't that what the free Fender Studio is for?
There is no immediate return on investment for free apps, so the chances to get one knob plugins in FS are slim. But here is someone prepared to buy SP if it had these simplified GUI plugins too. So there is a business case to be made, like 'The first professional DAW with Accessibility features' or something like that. So, idea pitched, and carry on :)
 
Hmm, I think the request was for a few additional simple stock plugins, not taking anything away from SP as it is today. So you could have your ProEQ and also a one band EQ: Under the hood the exact same plugin but with a simplified GUI, for who gets overwhelmed by the ProEQ GUI. Accessibility as Apple calls it. Could be nice to introduce beginners to sound plugins too. So, low-hanging fruit?
Isn’t this already achievable with the Macro view or the new Channel Overview? I mean, you could provide this with a bunch of view presets, no?
 
I think the whole point is to have this available out of the box, with one press of a button (no pun intended). You can't expect someone who's asking for simplified tools (to start with, or to reduce distraction) to write macro's and create view presets. So achievable maybe, but precisely not for the intended users.
 
So achievable maybe, but precisely not for the intended users.
Ah, misunderstanding. I just wanted to raise the possibility that it doesn‘t require development efforts, but it would be an option to provide these features on a higher level (presets). But I get your point. Maybe even choosing the right preset for this task can be challenging for the target audience.
 
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