Can Someone Get Me the Channel Order for Multichannel Aux Busses in FS Pro?

[DeadlyMixStudios]

We're wrapping up a long period of development on a new mono/stereo/surround/immersive plugin. I can't announce any details just yet because there's nothing like this on the market, but it'll be a must-have for anyone working in surround and/or immersive audio and those working in stereo are going to want this in their arsenal too.
I have a deadline to meet and I need the channel order for LCR/LRC, Quad, 5.1, 7.1, 5.1.2, 7.1.2, 5.1.4, 7.1.4, 9.1.2, 7.1.6, 9.1.4, 9.1.6 and any other configurations you might you might use, if any, right away.
For simplicity, its alright to list like, for example:
"9.1.6 : [L, R, C, LFE, LS, RS, LTF, RTF, LTR, RTR, LRS, RRS, LW, RW, LTM, RTM]" if
ch.1 = L, ch.2 = R, ch.3 = C, and so on.
I need the order so that we can add layout/routing maps for Fender Studio Pro.
We have Nuendo/Cubase Pro/WaveLab Pro, ProTools Ultimate/Studio, Reaper, Sequoia, Pyramix Premium, Resolve Studio, Audition, Abelton, and Logic Pro already mapped. The only company that hasn't gotten back to us with a developer's license or even a temporary/trial license for compatibility testing (which is why we aren't able to collect this information ourselves) is Fender/PreSonus. So, I'm reaching out to the users.

Your help is appreciated.

 

[dominicperry]

@Craig Anderton @Lukas
Any chance you can help this dev? - seems a pity for FSP to miss out on this, but my Surround/Atmos knowledge isn't good enough to know how to list these out.

Dominic

 

[SwitchBack]

Wouldn't the channel order simply follow the Dolby Atmos standards? I didn't search any further than this page but it seems like it's the right site to look for info, because in S1/SP Atmos is generating the bed outputs.

 

[DeadlyMixStudios]

Not necessarily. Logic uses its own layout system, ProTools layouts aren't even consistent across busses of the same configuration in the same DAW. I had to map PT Ultimate 4 or 5 different ways to wrap my head around it because its the only DAW that gave me a different map every time I created the same bus in a different way. ProTools is the second worst multichannel DAW for Atmos (after Reaper) to begin with, but the incompatible layouts make it that much worse. I dont want my Avid and Apple Dev IDs revoked, though. So, Ill lay off of Apple & Avid and move on before I get another email asking me to remove my post and address my concerns with them directly again

Anyway, with PreSonus having poached Steinberg's American dev team to develop StudioOne initially and Steinberg's architecture being more obvious in StudioOne than any other DAW out there, it seems like a safe bet to assume they use the same SMPTE/Dolby standard. Id just like to be sure they don't do anything stupid like ProTools, which reorder the channels at the inserts, making all mapping attempts irrelevant until you actually add the plugin to an insert and map which channels lead to which.

 

[AAV]

I don't do Atmos - but there is a trial of FSP 8.1.1 now: FSP Demo

 

[Lukas]

Anyway, with PreSonus having poached Steinberg's American dev team to develop StudioOne initially and Steinberg's architecture being more obvious in StudioOne than any other DAW out there, it seems like a safe bet to assume they use the same SMPTE/Dolby standard.

The claim that PreSonus “poached Steinberg’s American development team” is wrong on several levels. Neither Steinberg’s Cubase development team nor the developers behind Studio One are American.

Studio One grew out of KristalLabs and the work of two former Steinberg developers. Studio One grew out of KristalLabs and the work of former Steinberg developers - not some American Steinberg team being stolen wholesale.

Using personnel overlap from nearly fifteen years earlier as evidence that the two DAWs must share the same Atmos architecture or channel-order conventions is completely baseless.