Can main channel be moved to be first in order? S1 v7

[CoffeeKeepAwake]

From what I can tell, it can't.

Looks like it's stuck as the last channel.

 

[SwitchBack]

Yes, it is stuck to the far right, because it isn't an (input) channel but it's an output (bus). So when you open Outputs (having more than one) it will sit with the other outputs rather than with the channels.

 

[OutrageProductions]

Yes, it is stuck to the far right, because it isn't an (input) channel but it's an output (bus). So when you open Outputs (having more than one) it will sit with the other outputs rather than with the channels.

While the Hardware <Main> and <Listen> bus outputs are always stuck to the far right of the console, if one is using a <Master> [or other bus(es)] that feed the <Main>, they can be placed in any position in the console. Just FYI.

 

[SwitchBack]

Yeah, an output is a bus but a bus isn't always an output. And yes, if you must you can create a bus, place it on the far left, and make it the only thing feeding into the main bus, which is still on the far right.

 

[CoffeeKeepAwake]

Thanks, y'all. The bus idea is a great one!

 

[CoffeeKeepAwake]

Another Q: Does that mean I have to send all my channels to the bus, which is then sent to MAIN?

 

[Craig Anderton]

Another Q: Does that mean I have to send all my channels to the bus, which is then sent to MAIN?

Yes. But that has a potential advantage - you can dedicate the master bus to diagnostic plug-ins (e.g. spectrum analyzer, phase meter) to see precisely what's happening at the output.

 

[lokeyfly]

Another Q: Does that mean I have to send all my channels to the bus, which is then sent to MAIN?

What channels you do send to that bus at left might only be what you wish to control, that will then go to to the Main Out (at right). So the need for "all" is based on what you might alternatively control with that bus. i.e. grouped instruments, effects, and such. Yes, that bus or busses will then go to the main LR output (at right). I think describing the mains as a bus can be misleading, even though it technically is. Think of the main channel, as the main left-right output. There at right, is where the outout channel, stays.

Interestingly, your wish of moving mains other than hard right became a rather common design with some live hardware mixers (even studio consoles) in the early 80's and thereafter. The main, master out was often positioned left of the bus channels, and right of the channel inputs. Basically two-thirds to the right. Companies like Ramsa (Panasonic), Allan Heath, Soundcraft, and others adopted it. Reason being, the mains were physically closer or to a degree, centralized. If nothing else, a warm and cozy need to adjust/ride a bit closer. Keeping busses, or returns to the right.
Some DAW's also include it as it did carry over with some users needs.
I'd love to have this ability.

 

[Vocalpoint]

All my templates simply use Main as a diagnostic center. Nothing but meters and analysis connected to it.

All the other stuff happens upstream in other busses and VCAs.

VP

 

[CoffeeKeepAwake]

Yes. But that has a potential advantage - you can dedicate the master bus to diagnostic plug-ins (e.g. spectrum analyzer, phase meter) to see precisely what's happening at the output.

Craig Anderton! I recognize that name, I recall your work from Keyboard magazine (and more recent bits too).