Audio Recording

[Stuart Black]

I need some help with recording guitar. Every time I record something it doesn’t play back the same as what I played. Am I missing something with setting up the audio track ? Grateful for any help, I am rather old & struggle a bit with modern tech

 

[BobF]

Can we get some details about your system and the configuration you are using to record?

 

[SwitchBack]

and also what you mean by 'doesn’t play back the same as what I played'? Level, tone, timing, tuning, ...?

 

[Stuart Black]

Can we get some details about your system and the configuration you are using to record?

Windows 11, Intel i7 9700 CPU, 16 GB Ram, GeForce GT 710 GPU, 1TB SSD Hard Drive, Line 6 UXT 2 Audio interface. Everything records fine using Instrument tracks. I use Omnisphere, Serum 2, Stylus RSX & the other units inside Studio Pro.

 

[BobF]

Windows 11, Intel i7 9700 CPU, 16 GB Ram, GeForce GT 710 GPU, 1TB SSD Hard Drive, Line 6 UXT 2 Audio interface. Everything records fine using Instrument tracks. I use Omnisphere, Serum 2, Stylus RSX & the other units inside Studio Pro.

Now tell us about your guitar recording ...

 

[Stuart Black]

and also what you mean by 'doesn’t play back the same as what I played'? Level, tone, timing, tuning, ...?

It’s the timing, tried recording a new guitar riff using Bias X to a Stylus RMX Drum loop. My playing was fine but playback didn’t fit the rhythm. Same results when using the inbuilt Fender guitar plug in.

 

[Stuart Black]

Now tell us about your guitar recording ...

Set up a Stylus RMX Drum loop on track 1. Guitar through Bias X on track 2, my playing was fine but playback didn’t fit the rhythm, same results using the inbuilt Fender guitar plugin.

 

[Gerran]

Have you done a record offset measurement and adjustment?

https://my.presonus.com/learn/browse?viewingVideo=909

 

[BobF]

Set up a Stylus RMX Drum loop on track 1. Guitar through Bias X on track 2, my playing was fine but playback didn’t fit the rhythm, same results using the inbuilt Fender guitar plugin.

So the tone is correct, but not the timing? In that case see the link @Gerran posted

 

[Gerran]

Or this link, seems a bit more elaborate on the explanation if you prefer that..

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[CodonAgitat]

Are you familiar with this dialog? You need to have low input Latency

 

[Blockhead]

Does the timing sound ok while you're playing and recording?

 

[John Vere]

Audio latency can be extreme enough as to cause recorded tracks to be way out of sync with the playback of the Daw.

ASIO audio drivers normally solve this problem by telling the Daw how much latency is involved and then the Daw will automatically adjust for this.
Example, your output latency is 12 ms.
The Daw will send you the playback of the project 12ms earlier so it will now arrive at your headphones at the correct time.

Your input latency is also 12 ms so it will place the new audio 12 seconds ahead of the playback head. It ends up being in perfect sync with the original audio.

But not all ASIO drivers are created equally so as mentioned above we might have to test the “Offset” by performing a loopback test and manually adjust the amount of offset.

Im not sure Line 6 was ever really noted for producing lower latency ASIO drivers.

Most modern interface’s can be used at very low buffers and this is much needed for any recording process which uses effects in the Daw in real time. The minute you turn on the track monitor you will hear the latency as an echo. If your Round Trip Latency is anything over say 12 ms it will be very noticeable.

Sorry for all the geek stuff but bottom line is that to use Guitar Sims you need a system that can get the RTL well under 10 ms. As well as the ASIO driver needs to report that correctly to the Daw.

 

[Number6]

Line 6 POD Studio UX2 drivers here, make sure you select the correct device at the top (drop down:

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Update your drivers and firmware if necessary. Then reboot.

THEN
Make sure you select the ASIO device in Studio One:
Studio Pro (8.0.2) -> Audio Setup -> Audio Device. Make sure UX2 ASIO driver is selected.
Experiment with device buffer size, make sure it is as small as possible, if it crackles or does odd things, increase the value slightly until it becomes stable.