Are user profiles of Studio One for multiple people a thing?

[ianaeillo]

Hi. I freelance engineer out of a pro tools-based studio and they recently purchased a copy of S1 for the house engineer who also uses it as their main DAW outside of the studio. I was elated when I heard the news as I’d prefer to fully remove myself from the PT ecosystem. While I still use it for editing, I’m finding myself drift more and more from PT for more and more tasks. In my home, I have a severely customized Studio One - macros, shortcuts, color scheme - and after using the default settings, realized I’m not able to navigate it *at all* without my saved settings. I understand the backup and restore option is only available to sphere users. Is there an easy way I can bring and load all of my settings to my freelanced sessions and then revert to the previous settings without fear of overwriting or the busywork of moving folders to multiple locations at the end of the session?

Thank you for your guidance

-Ian

 

[lokeyfly]

Hi Ian,
Do you mean like multiple profiles that can be changed, and even shared and/or changed out? Taking a pot shot at the question, so while not song driven, I'm thinking the profiles can be switched out, based on.....
Macros: by saving in the macro task bar.
Mix: by saving mixer settings.
Shortcuts: by saving specific shortcut settings.
Track Presets: by saving as Presets
Perhaps others global settings (clock, defaults, etc): by saving some other way than by song only.
All of the above: by somehow saving as a template (not sure of those limits, myself).

I guess, I'm not sure where overall profiles reside, and what they fully encompass.
But I do get your question. I'll keep a watch on what a profile holds, is stored at, and how much it can be set up in multiple ways.

Nice, the Studio is providing besides PT, Studio One to facilitate those who use it.
I still clutch PT for times needed. ; )

 

[Vocalpoint]

Is there an easy way I can bring and load all of my settings to my freelanced sessions and then revert to the previous settings without fear of overwriting or the busywork of moving folders to multiple locations at the end of the session?

Thank you for your guidance

-Ian

I built a custom backup routine to capture my "entire" user profile based on code/example derived from the "official" "online" backup routine.

The resulting file set (once you really dig into this with the full intent of addressing EVERYTHING) - is most certainly not trivial.

It is also not something that I would consider "transferrable" either for daily use.

I only use this fileset when I am upgrading major versions of S1 - but especially when building a new DAW. This backup - when restored- will take a fresh clean install of Studio One and bring it right up to a point in time - so when I log in for the very first time - it's like I never even upgraded. The new environment has ALL my previous settings - from the obvious (recent file lists, macros, keyboard shortcuts) to the truly obscure (I/O templates , user profile pictures) - the works.

This took the better part of two weeks to test and get right but I can tell you - it was a very deep study in knowing exactly where your actual settings live in a typical S1 install.

VP

 

[lokeyfly]

Makes sense what VP is saying, ianaeillo.
Not something readily transferable.

Ok, I'm hearing myself think here, so bear with me. Since a song addresses most everything (profiles within), why not create for example four or so main songs and call them what they are (i.e. Studio Profile, Presonus Live mix Profile, Field setup Profile, Shared Profile. You needn't worry about a default location as you could instruct anyone using them as a profile to first Save to new folder with intended song name_user name_version. Of course, secure a master copy for backup. By Save to New Folder, you shead free, any trace of the old song folder, and keep the profile you want that will be a part of that song. That would include presets, mixer maps, busses, track presets, MIDI clock, Song meta data, etc.

As to scripts or whatever internal files needed within Documents/Studio One/ are needed, you'd have to sort out, such as Macros and such. Perhaps, keep them universally the same to one another.

Just thinnin', Bobalouie

 

[gabo]

Tricky as others have said. For things like tracks and effects, I use "import song data" a lot. So in that scenario, you could take a song with you on a USB stick and import anything out of that song into your session. I'm a drummer, but freelance as an engineer for recording drums. So I always take some songs that are similar to what I'm recording and use "import song data" to set up the tracks (like a track template) for my session as a starting point.

Things like Macros, Presets, etc. are all in folders underneath the Documents/Studio One/ Folder (at least on a PC). So you could copy many of those to your USB key, and then copy them to the studio's machine. If they are named something unique, the studio would probably let you leave them on their machine. Unless you consider them proprietary, then you could delete them after you finish.

For some things like "views" and things, I'm not sure. I have made a habit out of learning how to "start from scratch" as it helps me with my mix. I rarely use FX presets for the same reason. Yea, it would save some time, but I find if I start over and keep honing my skills with the FX that it makes me better instead of getting in a rut and always using a similar sound.

When I sit down at the console with a fresh song. I find that the 15 min routine of setting everything up relaxes me and gets me "in the right mindset" to do my best work. But you have to sort of rehearse what those moves are and how to repeat them.

But I'm also an "old school" guy who mixes and records real musicians. It's very different if you are an "in the box" artist that uses a lot of instruments, loops, etc. That's an entirely different thing.

 

[lokeyfly]

Things like Macros, Presets, etc. are all in folders underneath the Documents/Studio One/ Folder (at least on a PC). So you could copy many of those to your USB key, and then copy them to the studio's machine. If they are named something unique, the studio would probably let you leave them on their machine. Unless you consider them proprietary, then you could delete them after you finish.

Yep, just what I do as well, as Presets allow a jump on what works for those trickier setups one likely whittled away, until they got just what they need.

For some things like "views" and things, I'm not sure. I have made a habit out of learning how to "start from scratch" as it helps me with my mix. I rarely use FX presets for the same reason. Yea, it would save some time, but I find if I start over and keep honing my skills with the FX that it makes me better instead of getting in a rut and always using a similar sound.

Ditto, again. I start songs literally from scratch, as first off, it's super fast with Studio One to do so. Secondly, it allows me no barriers, no pre conceptions. Just a big blob of clay, that hasn't even been maleable yet. That said, my earlier points are towards ianaeillo [OP] who does require profiles for various needs, often live/studio or on the go based on specific needs/clients/co conspirers. Quite an understandable position. But the idea of that open and blank canvas still can be adhered as well.

When I sit down at the console with a fresh song. I find that the 15 min routine of setting everything up relaxes me and gets me "in the right mindset" to do my best work. But you have to sort of rehearse what those moves are and how to repeat them.

But I'm also an "old school" guy who mixes and records real musicians. It's very different if you are an "in the box" artist that uses a lot of instruments, loops, etc. That's an entirely different thing.

Both, here too and agree. Warming up to an area that suits that current scene is very cool, and very satisfying to go forward with.
Concur.

 

[ianaeillo]

Things like Macros, Presets, etc. are all in folders underneath the Documents/Studio One/ Folder (at least on a PC). So you could copy many of those to your USB key, and then copy them to the studio's machine. If they are named something unique, the studio would probably let you leave them on their machine. Unless you consider them proprietary, then you could delete them after you finish.

Absolutely. I'm an old school guy too and my concern is mainly keyboard shortcuts and Macros. I work off a console and initial setup can take hours. Having Studio One have the same zoom commands and as my home rig is the first thing I'd do.

I think my main concern would be not screwing up their machine for the next user. I can see how one person's workflow enhancement is another person's workflow killer. And

I will take all of these notes and see how it works. I genuinely appreciate your candor and advice. Thank you.

 

[gabo]

Absolutely. I'm an old school guy too and my concern is mainly keyboard shortcuts and Macros. I work off a console and initial setup can take hours. Having Studio One have the same zoom commands and as my home rig is the first thing I'd do.

I think my main concern would be not screwing up their machine for the next user. I can see how one person's workflow enhancement is another person's workflow killer. And

I will take all of these notes and see how it works. I genuinely appreciate your candor and advice. Thank you.

Just FYI, Couple more notes. For Macros, on the left side you can select the settings and create a new page and import your custom macros there. That leaves all the standard pages and macros in tact so it doesn't screw up the studio.

Similar for keyboard shortcuts, you can import you shortcuts and when you're finished, you can select "studio one" or whatever the studio had prior to you working and it'll take them back. If you're unsure, you can always "export" their keyboard settings prior to importing yours. That way you have a copy of the studio's keyboard mappings and can easily import those to get back to where they were.

Of course you can practice all this on your machine so you feel confident that you can leave it as it was when you arrived. I think for shortcuts and macros it's very workable and not all that difficult. Just meticulous, but what about this career isn't meticulous! We all have that down cold

 

[ianaeillo]

Just FYI, Couple more notes. For Macros, on the left side you can select the settings and create a new page and import your custom macros there. That leaves all the standard pages and macros in tact so it doesn't screw up the studio.

YES. THIS. Okay. This is EXACTLY what I was forgetting. I *never* use the macro page and so my usage of this was unfamiliar. You absolutely nailed it.

Similar for keyboard shortcuts, you can import you shortcuts and when you're finished, you can select "studio one" or whatever the studio had prior to you working and it'll take them back. If you're unsure, you can always "export" their keyboard settings prior to importing yours. That way you have a copy of the studio's keyboard mappings and can easily import those to get back to where they were.

I knew I could export mine but never thought about exporting and reimporting theirs for some reason. This is an absolute perfect response and that I didn't put it together shows how I over complicate things far too often in my brain. I let appreciate it

If you have a Venmo, pass it along and I'll get your next coffee. Thank you so much for the recommending this.

 

[gabo]

YES. THIS. Okay. This is EXACTLY what I was forgetting. I *never* use the macro page and so my usage of this was unfamiliar. You absolutely nailed it.


I knew I could export mine but never thought about exporting and reimporting theirs for some reason. This is an absolute perfect response and that I didn't put it together shows how I over complicate things far too often in my brain. I let appreciate it

If you have a Venmo, pass it along and I'll get your next coffee. Thank you so much for the recommending this.

Ha, that's great!! No need for a coffee, although I do love coffee! I have been doing this for a long time, it makes my day when I can pass along some tidbit. There were plenty of people who passed along things to me over the years, just paying it forward.

If you want to do something for me, just go play one of our songs and hopefully you get some enjoyment out of that as well!

Here's our latest album on some of the most popular streaming services, all of it was done in Studio One. I did all the recording, mixing, production, and played all the drums. They are all "real" drums.

NEXT by The Moderns

Stream and Save NEXT - Distributed by DistroKid

distrokid.com

 

[ianaeillo]

Ha, that's great!! No need for a coffee, although I do love coffee! I have been doing this for a long time, it makes my day when I can pass along some tidbit. There were plenty of people who passed along things to me over the years, just paying it forward.

If you want to do something for me, just go play one of our songs and hopefully you get some enjoyment out of that as well!

Here's our latest album on some of the most popular streaming services, all of it was done in Studio One. I did all the recording, mixing, production, and played all the drums. They are all "real" drums.

NEXT by The Moderns

Stream and Save NEXT - Distributed by DistroKid

distrokid.com

Listened last night. Love the drum sound. Follow The Rose is the standout for me!

 

[gabo]

Listened last night. Love the drum sound. Follow The Rose is the standout for me!

Ah very cool!! Thank you so much. A bit of the story of Follow The Rose...

Follow the Rose is a typical style of writing for us. So on a compass or a navigational chart, there is the little emblem that shows you where N, S, E, W are, that's a Compass Rose. So Following the Rose is like following a navigational map. With that little bit of info, the words become more clear. All about life and the direction you're headed!!

From the mountains to the sea
I beheld the setting sun
If you could see what I have seen
You might do what I have done

In the heat of day and cold of night
Life beneath the hallowed rose
If you could go where I have been
You might go where no man goes

You might choose to go easy
You might choose to go hard
Nobody knows where she goes, she goes
I will follow the rose`

With fire ahead and flood behind
I have remained forever young
If you could hear what I have heard
You might sing the song I sung

You might choose to go easy
You might choose to go hard
Nobody knows where she goes, she goes
I will follow the rose

Against advice of timid minds
I have walked the path I chose

If you dare me now like you dared me then
I'll still choose the hallowed rose


NOTE: I apologize in advance. More info than you ever wanted to know. haha. I'm passionate about our music, even though we've been doing it for about 45 years. Thanks so much for making my day!

 

[ianaeillo]

It worked flawlessly! Keyboard mappings and macros loaded and works as expected. Thank you all so much. I genuinely appreciate it.