UI/UX Inconsistency

[audioworksHU]

When switching between standard and automation track view, the size of common GUI elements change.



I think that common elements (such as the Track Number, Track Name, Mute and Solo buttons, etc.) should remain in place and constant, not changing their size or position for UI/UX consistency.

If the developers are reading this, please consider fixing these types of GUI inconsistencies.

 

[Trucky]

Developers don't check here.

Here's where to submit Feature Requests...
Feature Requests

 

[audioworksHU]

Here's where to submit Feature Requests...

Thanks for the hint! I've posted this feature request in the Look and Feel category.

It seems like there are so many great and easy-to-implement ideas, some of which have been requested for 9 years and are still waiting to be implemented.

 

[lokeyfly]

Thanks for the hint! I've posted this feature request in the Look and Feel category.

It's not an unreasonable request. Consistency accounts for a lot. It's more of a peeve, because the idea of the automation view changes, and the mute & solo are still really visible for all the tracks. MMV of course.

It seems like there are so many great and easy-to-implement ideas, some of which have been requested for 9 years and are still waiting to be implemented.

This is true. Until then, run with the positives, is my motto.

Tried to vote up from your link only that is for Studio One Pro+. That leads to another FR about Presonus, if I'm being honest.

 

[audioworksHU]

Tried to vote up from your link only that is for Studio One Pro+.

You don't need a Studio One Pro+ membership/subscription to create, comment and vote on feature requests.
Simply log in to my.presonus.com with your regular user ID and then switch to the feedback portal.

 

[lokeyfly]

Ok thanks. I thought it was different than the old. Will get that vote in later.
Appreciated.

 

[Lukas]

Ok thanks. I thought it was different than the old. Will get that vote in later.

It's indeed a new system, you're right. But not limited to subscription users.

 

[lokeyfly]

Thanks, and voted.

 

[OFS]

Developers don't check here.

Here's where to submit Feature Requests...
Feature Requests

They should Real world and all that...

 

[Trucky]

They should Real world and all that...

They don't have the time or resources to monitor every feature request that users post to all the available Internet platforms.
That's why they only focus on the one they created specifically for Studio One...
Studio One Feature Requests

 

[lokeyfly]

True, Trucky. I've always considered Presonus' Questions, or FR site as at least a service for others to access or share in conversation or support of their needs. Its all we can expect (as with most any suggestion box). It's simply an offering and people (including myself) shouldn't expect anything more from it. Too often people purchase something and think they're some major shareholder in the product. Sometimes they're even a self promoted board member. : ) Of course, as we all know, that doesn't mean users shouldn't request things. Far from it. They just shouldnt expect waiting for years as some lack of service. I've always felt a seriously good suggestion, oughtweighs a thousand bad ones. If one's past suggestions didn't resonate, then that's it. No matter how relevant we feel an FR should be implemented. It could probably even be a darn good idea. Its likely just not part of the next series of priorities, needs, or even usefulness to the program at large. Users should consider, if every, even good idea were implemented, Studio One would turn into a very slow performing, or convulted, over menu'd, DAW that would only produce more screams of unrest. Far be it, that would ever happen. : )

Hence my point about the slight scaling difference here is more of a pet peeve. That's not to say it's irrelevant, or diminish it (I supported it). It's simply a case of development are implementing bigger things right now. That's a good thing. Mmv, but from this camp, Studio One is still a lean, and quite efficient DAW with the same functionality, it always had. No deviations, skins, and do-dads that clutter its nature to work very well.
Onward and forward. Btw, nice face-lift on the newer Presonus Questions site.

OFS wrote: "They should Real world and all that...".
Actually, it's real world as is. There are people in this forum that have a direct line to development. That's not to say anything more will happen. Rather, that is to say, "real world" is rather....ehm..... real world.

 

[OFS]

True, Trucky. I've always considered Presonus' Questions, or FR site as at least a service for others to access or share in conversation or support of their needs. Its all we can expect (as with most any suggestion box). It's simply an offering and people (including myself) shouldn't expect anything more from it. Too often people purchase something and think they're some major shareholder in the product. Sometimes they're even a self promoted board member. : ) Of course, as we all know, that doesn't mean users shouldn't request things. Far from it. They just shouldnt expect waiting for years as some lack of service. I've always felt a seriously good suggestion, oughtweighs a thousand bad ones. If one's past suggestions didn't resonate, then that's it. No matter how relevant we feel an FR should be implemented. It could probably even be a darn good idea. Its likely just not part of the next series of priorities, needs, or even usefulness to the program at large. Users should consider, if every, even good idea were implemented, Studio One would turn into a very slow performing, or convulted, over menu'd, DAW that would only produce more screams of unrest. Far be it, that would ever happen. : )

Hence my point about the slight scaling difference here is more of a pet peeve. That's not to say it's irrelevant, or diminish it (I supported it). It's simply a case of development are implementing bigger things right now. That's a good thing. Mmv, but from this camp, Studio One is still a lean, and quite efficient DAW with the same functionality, it always had. No deviations, skins, and do-dads that clutter its nature to work very well.
Onward and forward. Btw, nice face-lift on the newer Presonus Questions site.

OFS wrote: "They should Real world and all that...".
Actually, it's real world as is. There are people in this forum that have a direct line to development. That's not to say anything more will happen. Rather, that is to say, "real world" is rather....ehm..... real world.

Hello @lokeyfly My "real world" quote was half-meant to be taken as a joke. I'm not expecting anyone from PreSonus to check this forum nor do I think they have any obligation to do so. What I can say having worked professionally in software development is the if it were me I would, for sure, look at this forum for "real world" commentary from people that probably (if they frequent this forum) use their software professionally, just like we did all the time in the company that I worked for. User experience was paramount there.

As for thinking about being a shareholder of the company, on the contrary, I always look at myself as a paying costumer and PreSonus as a business. I'm not under the illusion I have any friends there. And like any company they're in business to get profits and that's ok, it doesn't mean they're not passionate or they don't care about their products or customers. But as a customer I will always demand what I think is fair for the product I paid for. When talking about software this means constant bug fixes and functioning as advertised. I will also call out any BS when I feel sand is being thrown in my eyes, as I did when the subscription thing came along.

I agree with you when it comes to features - everyone has their own pet features and doesn't understand why they're not implemented. I'm not different for sure. What I find strange is looking at the feature request list and seeing top requests being made 7 or 9 years ago ignored so far, some of them regarding things that I can't imagine as being a huge task to implement when compared to some of the new stuff they've developed since. I could be wrong of course, I don't know the code but I can't imagine a right-click function for splitting a stereo file to two mono tracks (4th place on the request list, asked for 7 years ago) to be hard to do when compared to the complexity of such an app.

This is not a Studio One specific issue but it seems to me many software projects just leave things behind, specially if they were first developed long ago, that could and should be improved. I wish there was a "low priority thread" that kept on looking at this backlog of old things and kept improving them, taking into account users feedback such as the feature request list or taking a peek at this forum.

 

[lokeyfly]

Hello @lokeyfly My "real world" quote was half-meant to be taken as a joke.

I saw that, and thats understood. The bulk of my response was largely towards Trucky's points.

I'm not expecting anyone from PreSonus to check this forum nor do I think they have any obligation to do so. What I can say having worked professionally in software development is the if it were me I would, for sure, look at this forum for "real world" commentary from people that probably (if they frequent this forum) use their software professionally, just like we did all the time in the company that I worked for. User experience was paramount there.

Yes, my point that this is effectively a real world result on its own merit. Case in point, I voted for the OP's request, even if I'd really hope developers were tackling larger issues which they undoubtedly are. Also, as I mentioned, some here have a more streamlined connection to obtaining results.

As for thinking about being a shareholder of the company, on the contrary, I always look at myself as a paying costumer and PreSonus as a business. I'm not under the illusion I have any friends there. And like any company they're in business to get profits and that's ok, it doesn't mean they're not passionate or they don't care about their products or customers. But as a customer I will always demand what I think is fair for the product I paid for. When talking about software this means constant bug fixes and functioning as advertised. I will also call out any BS when I feel sand is being thrown in my eyes, as I did when the subscription thing came along.

You have that right. B.S is B.S. some have a different way stressing their needs. Not directed at you.

I agree with you when it comes to features - everyone has their own pet features and doesn't understand why they're not implemented. I'm not different for sure. What I find strange is looking at the feature request list and seeing top requests being made 7 or 9 years ago ignored so far, some of them regarding things that I can't imagine as being a huge task to implement when compared to some of the new stuff they've developed since. I could be wrong of course, I don't know the code but I can't imagine a right-click function for splitting a stereo file to two mono tracks (4th place on the request list, asked for 7 years ago) to be hard to do when compared to the complexity of such an app.

9 years, 3 weeks, whatever. I also have requests that are not difficult to address, are decades long DAW established, and reliable. I was simply stressing a point about how Presonus development will pick and choose priorities as they will. They have that right, and will be liable for their decisions. Sounds like you too are stating your requested points. Understood. Forge on, if you feel the need to do so. We all pick and choose our suggestions, until they get in the way of pursuing our own goals. Some might die on their obligatory hill. I won't (not directed at you).

This is not a Studio One specific issue but it seems to me many software projects just leave things behind, specially if they were first developed long ago, that could and should be improved. I wish there was a "low priority thread" that kept on looking at this backlog of old things and kept improving them, taking into account users feedback such as the feature request list or taking a peek at this forum.

I get that. There isn't let's say the desired flow from Presonus isn't all what it could be in their forum (now also largely cut off to their perpetual buyers). I think the staff here in this forum are quite better at at least hearing and commenting back to users when it's necessary. There's a distinct difference between this forum, and Presonus' Studio One's. So I'm not going to blur the lines, but you're correct on Presonus own lack of greater involvement. I agree with you, there.

My points about people expecting were not addressed at you, just to be clear. In fact, I recall in my statement including myself. ; )
Nice that you aired out your points though.

 

[OFS]

I saw that, and thats understood. Mother bulk of my response was largely towards Trucky's points.


Yes, my point that this is effectively a real world result on its own merit. Case in point, I voted for the OP's request, even if I'd really hope developers were tackling larger issues which they undoubtedly are. Also, as I mentioned, some here have a more streamlined connection to obtaining results.

You have that right. B.S is B.S. some have a different way stressing their needs. Not directed at you.

9 years, 3 weeks, whatever. I also have requests that are not difficult to address, are decades long DAW established, and reliable. I was simply stressing a point about how Presonus development will pick and choose priorities as they will. They have that right, and will be liable for their decisions. Sounds like you too are stating your requested points. Understood. Forge on, if you feel the need to do so. We all pick and choose our suggestions, until they get in the way of pursuing our own goals. Some might die on their obligatory hill. I won't (not directed at you).

I get that. There isn't let's say the desired flow from Presonus isn't all what it could be in their forum (now also largely cut off to their perpetual buyers). I think the staff here in this forum are quite better at at least hearing and commenting back to users when it's necessary. There's a distinct difference between this forum, and Presonus' Studio One's. So I'm not going to blur the lines, but you're correct on Presonus own lack of greater involvement. I agree with you, there.

My points about people expecting were not addressed at you, just to be clear. In fact, I recall in my statement including myself. ; )
Nice that you aired out your points though.

Hi @lokeyfly, thanks for the reply. I enjoy civilised discussions in forums. Not so easy sometimes

I didn't know know that PreSonus had the forums closed only for perpetual users. I just assumed they ended the forums for everyone. I already considered that a bad move, knowing that the forum still exist for "special" customers makes it even worse.

Anyway, I'm glad we have this forum and thanks to @Lukas for setting it up (and anyone else i don't know about) and everyone for contributing!