There is no fix for Intel’s crashing 13th and 14th Gen CPUs

[sintil8]

If folk on the latest generation CPU's are seeing any degredation in the way their computers are running you might need to take note
and look for more info about what is happening.

look for a Bios update from your Motherboard manufacturer as a preventative measure as any damage to the CPU will be permanent.
It would also appear, at this point, Intel are not recalling Chips that could be affected. The Bios update is a preventative measure and not a remedy for any damaged
CPU !

I know Asus have released a Bios microcode fix, as I reflashed my MB Bios.

Ref Doc Link.

There is no fix for Intel’s crashing 13th and 14th Gen CPUs — any damage is permanent

We got some answers from Intel, and more are on the way.

www.theverge.com

Regards to all.

Addendum Edit
JayzTwoCents runs the numbers if you want more info...

Guide: How to check if your CPU is BAD!

With all these stories of bad Intel CPUs, how can you check if yours is bad? Follow these steps to find out... Get your JayzTwoCents Merch Here! - https://ww...

www.youtube.com

 

[TonalDynamics]

Yeah I couldn't believe all this when I did my research into 13 and 14 Gen. Intels.

This whole fiasco has cemented my decision to delay my regular studio build by at least a year.

 

[sintil8]

Yeah I couldn't believe all this when I did my research into 13 and 14 Gen. Intels.

This whole fiasco has cemented my decision to delay my regular studio build by at least a year.

Smart move to delay, had that info been available when I did my build, I would have held off or gone for a Ryzen.
It's like living on borrowed time, and waiting for that day when it all goes over the hill.
That word "fiasco" just about sums it up Intel have deep pockets... talk about support for the end user tantamount to
take the money and run!

I dont overclock and kept everything at stock settings. fortunately I had some knowledge about voltages and temps.
Funnily that was related to a CPU fan and dust clogging the grill, the CPU was throttling due to the temperature on an intel i7.
These days I'm a dab hand with the marigold gloves and a small car vacuum
Regards

 

[Vocalpoint]

I ran my i5-13600K through all the Intel specific tools (including the Intel Processor Diagnostic Tool) and it's all good here. Probably because I run my board using the Optimized Defaults - which should be the "safe" zone anyway.

Also found 3 new BIOS updates for my ASUS board - so I will get things up to current and keep on trucking.

VP

 

[uOpt]

I'm still waiting for independent confirmation that the BIOS updates actually fix the crashing.

 

[NumberSix]

I'm also holding off upgrading my PC due to this Intel mess. I've always favoured Intel but this makes me lose confidence.

So is now (by which I really mean 2025) a good time for me to switch to AMD? Any thoughts? Anyone already made that jump?

 

[uOpt]

I'm also holding off upgrading my PC due to this Intel mess. I've always favoured Intel but this makes me lose confidence.

So is now (by which I really mean 2025) a good time for me to switch to AMD? Any thoughts? Anyone already made that jump?

I switched to AMD for my last build because of Intel's antics around ECC memory.

As a developer I would normally prefer Intel because they still have more monitoring and profiling tools, but alas that didn't tip the scale this time.

My big server/workstation is still an older Intel.

 

[Vocalpoint]

You guys do know that there is absolutely nothing wrong with any of these chips until you attempt to drive them wwaaayyy outside the recommended specs as supplied by Intel.

Which basically means - unless you are massively overclocking these things or driving the voltage to them thru the roof - where they are running 10x hotter than specced - you should be just fine.

Can't imagine anyone in the S1/DAW space needing to hot rod their main machine to the point of instability.

VP

 

[uOpt]

You guys do know that there is absolutely nothing wrong with any of these chips until you attempt to drive them wwaaayyy outside the recommended specs as supplied by Intel.

Which basically means - unless you are massively overclocking these things or driving the voltage to them thru the roof - where they are running 10x hotter than specced - you should be just fine.

Can't imagine anyone in the S1/DAW space needing to hot rod their main machine to the point of instability.

VP

The problem is that Intel themselves was driving them out of their safe space in firmware. You can't easily avoid that. People who did not mess with voltage and clock settings were affected. And possibly still are.

 

[Vocalpoint]

The problem is that Intel themselves was driving them out of their safe space in firmware. You can't easily avoid that. People who did not mess with voltage and clock settings were affected. And possibly still are.

Hmm. Well - I have one of the supposed out-liars here - and I have run a battery of tests on it and cannot find any issues. (Knock on wood)

Running the "Optimized Defaults" settings in the ASUS board in my sig and have not seen anything remotely odd.

Will watch with interest but all the real failures that anyone has mentioned all seemed to involve some heavy duty overclocking or some bizarre motherboard-shipping custom settings that ended up wreaking havoc..

I can say without reservation that if I choose "XMP II" on this specific Z790 Prime board I have here - which is a standard ASUS profile I have leaned on for years - this machine WILL crash as soon as the profile is enabled. The RAM should be fully compatible - yet it simply does not like this profile this time.

VP

 

[uOpt]

XMP is overclocking, just normalized through marketing. I don't use it. The speed benefit from overclocking memory for most applications (including music) is very, very small.

 

[Vocalpoint]

XMP is overclocking, just normalized through marketing. I don't use it. The speed benefit from overclocking memory for most applications (including music) is very, very small.

Yep - noticed that - as I have no profiles on now and the machine is flying.

VP

 

[NumberSix]

Gen 15 has been tarnished now as well with Arrow Lake processors facing stability issues, including frequent blue screens and performance issues.

 

[sintil8]

The one indeterminable piece of the puzzle in my mind and IMO., Intel should have cleared this up and identified the batches of die's that were subjected to Oxidation. Hopefully this wasn't to extensive or severe and folk don't have to RMA their CPU's.
Bare in mind, that if your machine is not regularly crashing you are probably OK.
Best regards.

PS @NumberSix your post popped up as I was typing... Gen 15 as well crap.

 

[uOpt]

Bare in mind, that if your machine is not regularly crashing you are probably OK.

Errr. It is very likely that an actual crash is the result of corruption, corruption that might happen at other times, too, while not causing a crash (but still scrambling your storage contents). A crash is actually the good outcome here.

 

[sintil8]

Errr. It is very likely that an actual crash is the result of corruption, corruption that might happen at other times, too, while not causing a crash (but still scrambling your storage contents). A crash is actually the good outcome here.

Yes I wouldn't argue with that. I was looking at it from, if the puter is stable and not crashing. Not suggesting that all crashes are caused by a bad CPU. It's good that you pointed that out tho' Cheers
Regards