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Solved Recording Issues with amp sim plugins

Gttr65

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Tonight when I opened the song I was working on just yesterday and attempted to record another guitar track using an amp sim insert plugin (TH-U), the only sound coming through on the armed and monitor-enabled channel with the correct input and output settings was the dry guitar signal. I was trying to record an alternate take on a channel with the same Insert plugin chain as before. The amp sim was getting the signal, but there was no signal on the Main Out channel and, again, I could only hear the dry guitar signal.
When I armed another channel and changed the Input to receive the output of a different recorded guitar track, the fully processed sound could be heard and it recorded with no issue. I hadn't changed any settings from before. If anyone has any suggestions, I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks very much.

Gtr65
Studio One 7.1.1
Mac Studio M2+
Quantum ES 4
 
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OK, so just now I tried to see what would happen if I added a Send on the guitar track channel to a bus channel. I had the guitar track channel still record-enabled, with monitoring on, and now I could once again hear my processed signal. When I removed the Send, once again I could hear only the dry guitar signal. I just don't get what is going on here. It's got to be something so simple but I just can't figure it out.
 
Please post screenshots that show your I/O settings and setup with both Studio One and your Quantum ES 4.
I'm not familiar specifically with the TH-U plugin but hopefully it's as easy as others like it.
 
The same behavior occurs no matter what the insert FX chain consists of. Even instrument tracks cannot be heard nor do their signals register on the Main Out channel unless sent to a bus channel, then I can hear the processed signal and it registers on the Main Out's meter.
 
Even with just the TH-U on the Insert?
Any security or privacy setting on the Mac that needs to be enabled to allow recording?
 
Even with just the TH-U on the Insert?
Any security or privacy setting on the Mac that needs to be enabled to allow recording?
Yes---I've tried just inserting TH-U and even other amp sims with the same result. Mind you, this same guitar channel on this same song had previously been functioning fine. I hadn't changed any settings since then, but now the signal is just not making it out of the channel unless it's sent to a bus channel. Nothing had changed on my Mac, either.
Also, thanks so much for your replies.
 
I should have added that this is a global issue---all channels exhibit this behavior. Starting a new song yields the same results.
 
What UC and ES 4 firmware versions are you running?
 
I downloaded and installed the TH-U demo and everything works as expected with the Quantum ES 4.
I'm running Windows 11 so hopefully the issue you're having isn't related to your Mac and OS.
Also running the same UC and ES 4 firmware versions

Are you using the VT3?

Have you submitted a Support ticket yet?

TH-U Demo Install.png
 
I am using VST3's; I tried this with the AU version with the same result. I'm going to put in a Support Ticket with Presonus.
Thanks again, Trucky.
 
I'd recommend submitting a Support Ticket also to Overloud TH-U support.
 
I'd recommend submitting a Support Ticket also to Overloud TH-U support.
I should have (if even possible) edited the Subject line of my thread because as I mentioned in one of my subsequent posts in this thread, the same thing happened with other amp sims, so it's not TH-U (which is great, BTW). One thing I haven't tried is to open version 6 and see if I get the same result.
 
Your guitar is plugged into the instrument channel 1 in the front and nothing is plugged into channel 1 in the back. Correct?
 
Your guitar is plugged into the instrument channel 1 in the front and nothing is plugged into channel 1 in the back. Correct?
Yes--that's exactly right.
I feel, in fairness to Overloud, I should edit the Subject title of this thread to omit the mention of TH-U, since I've found that it's not just that particular amp sim, nor any, for that matter, considering the same thing happened with instrument tracks. I guess you're about the best person to ask (being Moderator), so is this possible/advisable to do?
 
Thanks, Trucky, for modifying the subject/title of the thread. I think the new subject title is more appropriate than what I originally wrote.
 
***UPDATE***
While watching a YT video on low latency monitoring in S1, I saw a setting he made in the Audio setup that reminded me that I did make a change in my Preferences--- In the Processing tab of the Audio Setup section, I had reduced the Dropout Protection from Medium to Low without lowering the Device Block Size in the Audio Device tab, and didn't notice that my Low Latency Mode "Z" indicator in the Main Out Channel had turned from green to blue. I had inadvertently switched to Hardware Monitoring!!!
So I changed the Device Block Size setting from 128 samples to 64 samples, and the blue Z turned green and I can once again hear the processed signal on an armed, monitoring-enabled channel.
Just another day in computer-based digital music production---you look forward all day to recording after work, and instead you end up spending hours troubleshooting yet another glitch from the Twilight Zone, regardless of which DAW you're using or how powerful your computer is. To be honest, having only recently upgraded from version 6 to version 7, I was starting to have buyer's remorse, but not anymore!
 
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