Export Stem Options changed in Studio One 7

[Wolfger]

Does anyone know, why they crippled the export stem options in v7?
It´s no longer possible to force instrument-tracks/channels to mono if the instrument is playing a mono sound.
Is this somehow related to the "we only can transform to audio and merge to new track in stereo" bug?
some really weird decisions in v7
v6

v7

 

[Resonant Serpent]

Curious about this. Is v7 no longer able to render a file in mono?

 

[Wolfger]

Curious about this. Is v7 no longer able to render a file in mono?

Sems to be the case, a new „Feature“ I guess.

 

[Resonant Serpent]

I seem to remember someone stating that the effects are all in stereo, even if set to mono. The recommendation was to use stereo effects only in S1. I wonder if this is related.

 

[BalintBass]

Does anyone know, why they crippled the export stem options in v7?
It´s no longer possible to force instrument-tracks/channels to mono if the instrument is playing a mono sound.
Is this somehow related to the "we only can transform to audio and merge to new track in stereo" bug?
some really weird decisions in v7
v6
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v7
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Hi!

I also ran into this problem, but with the current update, stem saving works as it should again!
My version now is the 7.1.0.104182
Luckily it wasn't a new feature, just a simple bug.

We use multitrack backing with the band, it was quite annoying that I couldn't get the mono tracks for the player... In the end I decided to stick with the tried and tested old exports. It was quite a headache, we wanted to update things before our tour...

 

[Monobrowser]

It´s no longer possible to force instrument-tracks/channels to mono if the instrument is playing a mono sound.

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v7
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Your screenshot literally shows the deselected "Keep Speaker Format". If the track is mono, it will export mono.

 

[Wolfger]

Your screenshot literally shows the deselected "Keep Speaker Format". If the track is mono, it will export mono.

Still they canceled the "force to mono" option from v6. So as I wrote in my post, it´s no longer possible to export an instrument-track as mono, if the instrument is sounding mono. Instrument tracks are always stereo and when clicking "keep speaker format" will export stereo. in v6 on could force them to mono. It´s not a biggie, but I will never understand why an upgrade has to have lesser options then the previous version.

kind regards
wolfger

 

[Monobrowser]

Actually IMO this is the smarter way to do it. Usually you use the Stems export dialog to export several tracks or channels at once. So using the old Mono option would export everything in mono.
This way, it follows the track status. So mono will stay mono, stereo will be stereo and any surround format will also keep its format. This is more likely to be how you want it to export, right? At least I do. I think it may require some to adapt to set the track to the format they want.

 

[Wolfger]

Actually IMO this is the smarter way to do it. Usually you use the Stems export dialog to export several tracks or channels at once. So using the old Mono option would export everything in mono.
This way, it follows the track status. So mono will stay mono, stereo will be stereo and any surround format will also keep its format. This is more likely to be how you want it to export, right? At least I do. I think it may require some to adapt to set the track to the format they want.

Again, I no how this works, that´s not the point. The question is, why they reduced options, - not wether you personally need those options or not.
I now mixing engineers, who just don´t like it, to receive stereo tracks of mono sources, it´s a waste of resources, stereo tracks need more disc-space and stereo plugins need more cpu power.
You are in no way considering my argument, that there is no way to export mono synth sounds from an instrument-track. Instrument-tracks always export stereo even when the sound they produce is mono. In v6 you could force those tracks to be mono in a separate export pass, in v7 you can't.
Sure there are workarounds, by converting those stereo-tracks to mono with third-party software, but this again raises the question: why am I forced to use and additional step in v7 when this was perfectly doable in v6?

 

[Monobrowser]

I forgot about instruments, you are right about that. Good point. Until then, the easiest workaround would be using a mono bus for that synth (optionally hide the synth channel and use the bus channel instead).