Can't hear track playback with low latency mode engaged

[Famous Beagle]

When I use the Low Latency mode (with the Z illuminated), I get no latency when recording (which is great), but I then don't hear the playback on that track while it's in record mode.

In other words, if I'm recording vocals on track 1 and have it armed with the Z light on, I can monitor great with no latency. But then if I play back what I've recorded while the Z light is still on, I hear nothing on that track (all other tracks play fine). In order to hear playback on that track, I have to either 1) Disarm the track or 2) Turn off the Z light. When the Z light is off, I can always hear playback on a track, regardless of whether it's armed for recording or not.

As you can imagine, this issue when the Z light is on makes punching in an out quite difficult, and having to toggle the Z light on and off between takes is quite cumbersome. What am I doing wrong? Thanks!

 

[chichogp]

Do you have any plugins on the track?

 

[Famous Beagle]

Do you have any plugins on the track?

Yes, probably an EQ and/or compressor. Would that cause an issue?

 

[chichogp]

You can only have a plugin on a low latency enabled track if it adds less than 3 ms of latency (you can check this on the performance monitor). If one or more plugins on the chain -which includes the track itself and whatever buses it's routing to, including the master bus- adds more than 3 ms it will be bypassed, and it might be the source of your muting. Since you're not providing much detail this is as far as I can help, just turn off every plugin and start engaging them one by one, if any one of them (related to the track) doesn't turn green it might be the culprit.

Edit: You can also check if you have the "Monitoring mutes playback" setting on (click on the wrench), in which case you might want to turn it off.

 

[Famous Beagle]

You can only have a plugin on a low latency enabled track if it adds less than 3 ms of latency (you can check this on the performance monitor). If one or more plugins on the chain -which includes the track itself and whatever buses it's routing to, including the master bus- adds more than 3 ms it will be bypassed, and it might be the source of your muting. Since you're not providing much detail this is as far as I can help, just turn off every plugin and start engaging them one by one, if any one of them (related to the track) doesn't turn green it might be the culprit.

Edit: You can also check if you have the "Monitoring mutes playback" setting on (click on the wrench), in which case you might want to turn it off.

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Thanks for the response. I'm not trying to provide little information. I'm happy to answer any questions you have; I just didn't know what all I needed to provide.

I appreciate the info. I've watched several videos on this low latency mode, and none of them mention anything about the 3ms rule. I just re-read the S1 manual, and now I see it in there. (I had checked earlier but couldn't find anything about it. I was apparently looking in the wrong spot.)

I'm guessing that's the problem, as I've noticed major latency issues when having plug-ins enabled on the master bus before. Once I disable them, the issue disappears. I kind of thought (after watching a few YT videos about it) that the low latency mode was a way around that. But I guess not. I'll give it a shot and see if it works. Thanks.

 

[Famous Beagle]

You can only have a plugin on a low latency enabled track if it adds less than 3 ms of latency (you can check this on the performance monitor). If one or more plugins on the chain -which includes the track itself and whatever buses it's routing to, including the master bus- adds more than 3 ms it will be bypassed, and it might be the source of your muting. Since you're not providing much detail this is as far as I can help, just turn off every plugin and start engaging them one by one, if any one of them (related to the track) doesn't turn green it might be the culprit.

Edit: You can also check if you have the "Monitoring mutes playback" setting on (click on the wrench), in which case you might want to turn it off.

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Well, dang. That didn't do it. I deactivated every plug-in on the track (one EQ, two comps, and one de-esser) and both plug-ins on the master bus (comp and limiter), but I still get no playback when the track is armed and the Z is lit. This track (lead vocal) is not going to any other buses at this point - just straight to the main bus.

I figured the "Monitoring mutes playback" option couldn't be it, because, as I said, I never had this issue before I tried using the Z mode. But I just verified that it's not checked.

Any other ideas by chance? If you need any more specific info, please let me know. I appreciate you trying to help out.

 

[ikoliks]

I experience the same issue even without any plugins on the track or master. With zero-latency mode enabled, I can either hear what I play when the track is armed for recording, or I have to disarm the track (or at least turn off the monitor button) to hear what I’ve recorded. So this low-latency feature is useless for me as well.

 

[SwitchBack]

In low-latency mode playback and monitoring are separate processes, so everything you want to hear during recording/punch-in has to be included in your cue mixes. You can't rely on the normal playback mix for this. Also note that some FX processes like Pipeline, Splitter and plug-ins with more than 3ms latency are not supported in low-latency mode. Check out 'Cue Mixes and Low-Latency Monitoring' in the manual for the details, as the devil is in the details, as always...

 

[Famous Beagle]

In low-latency mode playback and monitoring are separate processes, so everything you want to hear during recording/punch-in has to be included in your cue mixes. You can't rely on the normal playback mix for this. Also note that some FX processes like Pipeline, Splitter and plug-ins with more than 3ms latency are not supported in low-latency mode. Check out 'Cue Mixes and Low-Latency Monitoring' in the manual for the details, as the devil is in the details, as always...

Great, thanks for the info. I'll check that out. So strange that none of the YT videos I've watched on this topic mention this, as it's a pretty crucial distinction!

 

[SwitchBack]

One person's head scratcher is another person's duh. It's so easy to forget mentioning the things you take for granted. YT is the living proof of that

 

[chichogp]

I learned about the 3 ms thing after a couple of hours trying to figure out why Amplitube wasn't green and the UI didn't respond.