Solved Can not find automation tracks that

[Dr. Krómar]

So few weeks ago I used ATOM SQ with Studio One 7 to write an automation of two parameters of the Mini V3 from Arturia. Now later when I want to edit these parameters, the automation tracks are nowhere to be found. This despite the "packed folder view" showing automation lines and the automation is being carried out through the audio. I must have hidden them or something, I don't know.
The problem is that now when I add again the automation track for these parameters it only shows a flat line. The strange thing is that the "vertical fader" on these new automation tracks move according to the old automation track that at some point disappeared.
How can I bring back this "ghost automation" so I can edit it?

 

[Dave71]

I think I have read the post 5 times now but still not sure what you mean. What vertical fader? What automation? Did you change the track to show automation? Or did you create a new track for it? Or can you expand the automation by clicking the squiggly line at the bottom left of the track header?

 

[Wolfger]

So few weeks ago I used ATOM SQ with Studio One 7 to write an automation of two parameters of the Mini V3 from Arturia. Now later when I want to edit these parameters, the automation tracks are nowhere to be found. This despite the "packed folder view" showing automation lines and the automation is being carried out through the audio. I must have hidden them or something, I don't know.
The problem is that now when I add again the automation track for these parameters it only shows a flat line. The strange thing is that the "vertical fader" on these new automation tracks move according to the old automation track that at some point disappeared.
How can I bring back this "ghost automation" so I can edit it?

Seems like you wrote the automation directly into the MIDI part during recording:

 

[Dr. Krómar]

I think I have read the post 5 times now but still not sure what you mean. What vertical fader? What automation? Did you change the track to show automation? Or did you create a new track for it? Or can you expand the automation by clicking the squiggly line at the bottom left of the track header?

Sorry about this mess of an explanation. Still thanks for trying to make sense out of it
I meant the "horizontal fader" to the left of each track.
I believe Wolfger is correct, I must have recorded the information as midi.

 

[Dr. Krómar]

Seems like you wrote the automation directly into the MIDI part during recording:View attachment 271

Thank you so much. I think this is correct - totally makes sense. I will confirm it later on my studio computer.

 

[Lukas]

Yeah, it's important to keep in mind that there's part automation (inside the Note Editor in an automation lane) and track automation (which can be expanded or recorded on separate automation tracks) in Studio One.

I will confirm it later on my studio computer.

Was this the solution?

 

[Dr. Krómar]

Yeah, it's important to keep in mind that there's part automation (inside the Note Editor in an automation lane) and track automation (which can be expanded or recorded on separate automation tracks) in Studio One.


Was this the solution?

Hi
Yeah, this was the solution. I did not realize that a midi envelope and an automation track for the same parameter could be two separated things.
It actually feels kind of strange, especially when the "horizontal fader" (1st red arrow in picture) for the cutoff is moving in accorrdance with the midi envelope, and still the flat line is being displayed in the automation track (2nd red arrow in picture).
Below (3rd and 4th red arrows) shows the midi envelope for the cutoff.