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Been away from music...

nikkdust

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Hi!

I've been away from creativity, for far too long. I just can't seem to pull myself to start again. I fix stuff like preparing an project or two, intonate guitars and read musicrelated stuff.
But, then there is just that. I'm also afraid of the recordbutton, god forbid if i get it wrong.
Anyway, I ain't get nothing done. Sad part is that I have songs to record.

What do you do when creating strikes down to nothing?
 
.....But, then there is just that. I'm also afraid of the recordbutton, god forbid if i get it wrowrong
Hi Nikk. That's simply a mental block. The good news is, you can repeat layers, comp them for the best takes. Or simply wait it out. Then climb back in when the spirit moves you. I give FAR MORE CREDIT to someone who falls off the horse, and climbs back on. Inspiration comes in spurts. So does real good takes. If you were a virtuoso musician playing nine hours a day for years on end. Sure, you could knock most any take out of the park at will. However, there is also a flipside to that and that is, nothing is so inspirational, or profound, just because a take comes easier for one person than another. The good stuff comes from within. Not AI, not piecing loops, and not Lego blocks. It's your soul, and that will find it's way. So rather than force sonething that isn't working, perhaps build on what it is you'd like to get the going that just feels good. Maybe that's a rhythm thing, or maybe singing in the shower (where we all kick some serious gut felt goodness in the shower). Or wait a day, and pop on some music that stimulates the senses, until you've got what feels like something you'd want to mess with (jam).

Moma said there'd be days like this, so take it all in stride. You'll find that there's some seriously good music inside you that's yet to come. That's worth not forcing, but rather riding the good waves as they come in. Sometimes they just don't.

What do you do when creating strikes down to nothing?
Laugh at the AI post. Or let it stimulate you, maybe with a lyrical line you never considered. Just let it (whatever it is), happen. Start another song or three. Sometimes a few days or weeks away from a song, makes you come in with a new kind of feel and allows you to be more objective about it. Maybe a new chorus idea. Maybe just start with a jam.
It's all good, brother.
 
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What do you do when creating strikes down to nothing?

I go through this all the time but have learned that each time I fire up S1 - it doesn't have to be about recording "Dark Side of the Moon" right then and there.

For me - it's all about "starts". Any idea, a phrase, or even a 5 second loop - anything that say - "hmm - there might be something here."

Quite often - I get into this mode and simply save the idea as Musicloop and come back later. Other days - it's a full on session. But I believe in "starts". Without that - you really do have nothing.

VP
 
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Quite often - I get into this mode and simply save the idea as Musicloop and come back later. Other days - it's a full on session. But I believe in "starts". Without that - you really do have nothing.

VP
So true. I can't even begin to count how many times the title, theme, or groove changed, from what I was trying to start out with. Just drop it on the floor, and worry about picking up the pieces later. That's often a good thing. It allows you to not be burdened with the overflow of what's really not important yet.

Screw the rules.
 
Just do anything, and the muse will eventually take over from there.

I have noticed that after lengthy periods of inactivity, the first attempts might be unsatisfying. But it's like starting a fire in the fireplace - it takes a while for the kindling to do its thing, but one the logs catch, you just keep throwing on more logs 👍
 
👍 yes. Learn by doing. Anyone whoever told you they can ski, or ride a horse, and never fell. Is really not very good at doing those things. Making music is no different.

Oh, one thing I forgot. When you start a song, be sure to name it something and not just fill in the Studio One default file. That can easily get filled and can then be counter productive advancing the song and folder later.
Call the song "Fishsticks", "Applesauce", "Learning Mai Tai 01", anything. Just be sure to give it a proper name. Studio One will create the folder automatically, based on the songname. This is pretty important. Just saying.
 
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I use the time creative blocks provide to take care of administrative tasks. I am still using the equipment, flexing muscle memory. This also makes my set-up more efficient for when I am creatively inclined.

Tasks might include mapping some vsts I find myself using more lately to my controllers, organizing/backing up project folders/sound banks/presets, or studying up on a bit of music theory/working on my playing skills.

Work without a goal or a destination in mind. Fire up a synth (or an effect) and get lost in tweaking knobs chasing a sound.

Like love (or in my old age--sleep), creativity can't be forced or summoned on command. It often presents itself when you are no longer chasing it.
 
Here is a list of 10 things you can do to improve your creativity and experiment with things provided by someone who attended a workshop presented by Brian Eno. Look at number 1

Brian Eno taught me these 10 lessons in his music-making workshop

1 Boredom is important

“I’m almost sure that [Music for Airports] would have never happened had I not been sitting in an airport bored,” says Eno — before adding, “and [being] slightly annoyed by German disco music”.
It was perhaps a lot easier to be bored in the 1970s before the invention of the smartphone. These days, most of us spend hours avoiding being bored by scrolling through content platforms. “Consumerism is the fear of boredom embodied,” Eno goes on to explain, but we need not be afraid of boredom. The next time you wake up, don’t consume anything he suggests — not anything on your phone, not even your breakfast. Instead, see what enters your mind. “Something will appear,” he says. For Eno, that ‘something’ planted the seed for one of his best-selling albums.

2 Taking things out is as important as leaving things in

Challenging yourself to remove the main hook or riff in your song might seem self-defeating, but Eno thinks this is a powerful way to open up the rest of your mix and see the potential of each part.

There are two ways it can go: By removing the most important part, you might realise that none of the other instruments are doing much at all. On the other hand, as Eno explains, it might “make you realise that the least revolutionary part is the bit that you’re hooked by”.

One thing Eno would do at the end of every recording session is to create what he called the “film mix”, that is in other words, taking the piece apart, leaving stuff out, and seeing if he could create something with the parts that were left.

3 Push the limits of your parameters

Eno believes that most of the truly interesting stuff happens at the outer limits. For any given parameter, he’s more interested in what happens at the “edges of controls”, than the comfortable middle range that most people stay in. After a lifetime of turning the knobs on all manner of studio gear, Eno says, “I’ve realised that the most interesting thing about controls is what happens at the extreme end of them”.

4 Take note of what grabs your attention

Creating good music starts by knowing what you like. At a time when algorithms vie for our attention, he repeatedly stressed the need to notice our thoughts and feelings. Eno often repeated the phrase, “If I do a double take, I do a triple take.” In a production context, this means noticing when something feels off or identifying what really clicks — then asking yourself why.

5 Break the grid

Ignoring the gridlines in your DAW or opting for an unusual time signature are just some techniques Eno suggests for adding unpredictability to your work process.

It was something that he noticed while watching the young producer and his apprentice, Fred Again.., effortlessly navigate Logic Pro. Ignoring gridlines entirely, he would start by dropping sounds into the middle of the timeline.
“If you work in Logic and you’re not a Fred, you tend to work in straight lines,” Eno says, but what is key to Fred’s music is that he ignored the boundaries that constrained most artists and acted more like a “collage artist”, fluidly placing bits of music next to each other that completely ignored the grid.

6 Constraints are good

We’ve all felt the urge to buy more gear or invest in some sprawling software mega bundle, but Eno cautions against this. He believes limitations are something that drives our creative thinking and stops us from getting paralysed by endless options. “The kiss of death,” warns Eno. “Is software that says, ‘Now you can do anything.’” In the digital age, self-imposed constraints are essential, says Eno, and goes so far as to suggest ideas like banning artificial reverb from the studio, forcing yourself to write a song in 20 minutes, flipping a coin to choose your chords or limiting the number of tracks in a session

7 Double the tempo

Alongside his pioneering avant-garde work, Eno has written plenty of chart toppers and produced some of the world’s most famous bands. Along the way, he’s picked up some recurring tricks that “nearly always make a song better”.

One of these tricks he calls the Klaus Dinger beat, also known as the motorik beat. Named after the drummer from Neu!, it effectively doubles the tempo of a song. While working with U2 on Beautiful Day, Eno says the song wouldn’t gel until he asked the band to try the Klaus Dinger beat. That simple repeating 4/4 beat gave the track momentum and turned it into the hit we know today.

8 Never delete anything

You might just find treasure in the trash, but the only guarantee you’ll come across it is if you never empty the bin. That goes for your desktop bin too. According to Eno, he never gets rid of any idea, snippet, demo, or recording, reporting that he’s got thousands of song ideas that he’s collected over the years.

Over time, a well-kept archive becomes a creative library where you can pull out a recording on any given day and pick up where you left off. “I don’t ever let anything go out of play, the point about the archive is to keep all the saucepans on the stove.”

In the case that it’s a total failure Eno will still stick to his rule, although he might leave his future self a reminder: “Sometimes I will give it a title like, ‘Possibly the shittest piece of music I’ve ever done’.”

9 Find music in everyday life

While living in New York, Eno found himself fascinated with American radio. He would regularly record “shock jockeys” and shouting evangelists using a boom box and a cassette tape. Comparing American radio to the BBC back home, he thought, “This is amazing to live in such a fertile, unfiltered, sonic world.”

This material eventually ended up in the album My Life in the Bush of Ghosts with David Byrne. As he recalls, “I had recorded this guy off the radio… he was stuttering with nerves in a kind of fervent”, that bit contrasted heavily with the host who replied rather flatly with: “Yeah, yeah yeah…”. Taking these everyday recordings to the studio En

10 Polish the turd

“Try to polish a turd,” Eno suggests; it’s one thing you can do with a piece of music you think is completely useless. It’s an interesting take on a classic cliche.

According to Eno, what’s great about something that’s already bad is that there’s no risk you can make it any worse and this frees you to try something utterly different. These bits that don’t become a song on day one might continue to have a life in the future perhaps repurposed into a part for another song. Eno does this so often that he declares with a laugh, “I am probably one of the most prominent turd polishers in the business”.
 
Two added things come to mind:

1. Grab Craig Andertons ebook on Studio One Tips & Tricks. So your hanging out at.....ok, an airport. Craig's topics are both very accessible to our brains because there's a lot of illustrations, and screen captures instead of text only points made. Or, you're getting ready to track, and want to explore a few proven helpful hints. There's a friggin' lot of useful stuff in there.

2. We have phones now. There's no more remorse of, I woke up with a melody, or was washing my car and I had a killer Rhythmical idea, but now I forgot it. Grab your basic audio app off your phone, and sing into it the music or word idea (even if it's broken up for now). You've just captured what so many people couldn't do for decades, unless they had some device or cassette recorder with them. It's not AI, but it's better. No one ever described you as being artificial. 😃

I know a number of our points are outside of actual tracking, but "being away from music..." is being able to capture thoughts and ideas that promote passion and not just hitting the record button.

@ Jeff (jemusic). Thanks for the Brian Eno contribution for added ideas. Great points. There are few I consider that completely uninhibited artist and producer. He is one of them, and an ultra nice person. I named one of our Great Danes "Eno" after him.
 
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Yes the Eno list is interesting and I find myself doing some of them naturally. Especially pulling out the important part and seeing what is left. But in terms of creativity and hitting a roadblock I think point 1 is important in this list. And while boredom might be one term, I see it slightly differently. I think distractions are a good description. Its harder now to be totally not distracted. Suppose you want to meditate for example. You have go to extra lengths these days to shut off from everything. But you still can if you try and then you can clear your mind of all the tons of things that are running around inside your head all the time. Maybe the ideas are actually there but they say an idea is a delicate and precious thing. Its small and quiet too. If there is a lot of noise going on around it then you may never discover it.

So do as Eno suggests here in point 1. Clear your mind. Do nothing. Be distracted by nothing and see what pops into your mind. You may be surprised. The opposite can also apply. Sometimes I get ideas when I am in a noisy and distracted state too. But the quiet approach will always definitely work too.

The idea of capturing an idea with your phone is also a great one too. We have our phones with us mostly and any simple recording app will do the job well. You can vocalise (beatbox) a rhythmical idea or sing a melody or bass line etc. Even if you hear an idea that might involve two or three musical concepts you can still put them down on your phone one by one and layer them up later in your DAW and then rebuild the ideas with your instruments.

You might also hear something interesting too. Grab your phone and record it. eg going past a construction site one day I heard 4 pile drivers that were out of sync but at one point they all came into sync and created a beautiful rhythmical pattern for about 4 bars. I was filling up my car the other day and the bowser was making a nice 16th note ticking noise pattern. The guy next to me also was doing that too. For a little while they locked in and created a killer groove. This is variant of Eno's point 9 Find Music In Everyday Life.
 
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One more comment - it's important to know when you run out of gas. For example, I came up with a good idea for a chorus, which I recorded as a scratch version in Studio One. But I didn't have an idea for what to put before or after it. So, I called it a day rather than trying to force anything.

I came back a few days later and played the chorus. An idea of how to follow it occurred immediately after the chorus ended, so I recorded a scratch version of that. The verse structure also worked for before the chorus, so I did a copy+paste and added a cursory intro.

I transferred the file to my phone and listened to it a few times over the next couple days. Eventually I realized that if I cut the intro in half, the first half was quite good but the second half wasn't. So I deleted it. On subsequent playbacks, the second half suggested itself during that silence.

The bottom line is once you get a flash of inspiration, let that be enough. If the rest doesn't come easily, it will eventually.
 
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